From: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
To: "Éric Piel" <E.A.B.Piel@tudelft.nl>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
Florian Ragwitz <rafl@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 23:01:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C533DC3.9070001@euromail.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C532009.4020103@tudelft.nl>
On 07/30/2010 08:55 PM, Éric Piel wrote:
> On 21-07-10 05:36, Dmitry Torokhov wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 11:06:28PM +0200, Éric Piel wrote:
>>> When 2 fingers are pressed, the low and high coordinates are given.
>>> Instead of reporting just the low coordinate as the normal position,
>>> report an average of both. This allow to have the cursor always move,
>>> whichever finger moves. In practice, this improves the support of
>>> two-fingers scolling with the synaptics X driver.
> :
>>> - input_report_abs(dev, ABS_X, x1<< 2);
>>> - input_report_abs(dev, ABS_Y, y1<< 2);
>>> + input_report_abs(dev, ABS_X, (x1 + x2)<< 1);
>>> + input_report_abs(dev, ABS_Y, (y1 + y2)<< 1);
>>
>> I am concerned what happens when you put one finger first and then add
>> another one. Would not that couse the cursor to jump?
I agree, I have seen this behavior before and it is not quite what you want. The
average point does jump.
>> I'd say we need to obey MT protocol and continue reporting the first
>> contact in non-MT protocol and rely on MT-aware drivers to do better job
>> of contact tracking. This is also consistent with how other drivers,
>> such as bcm5974, report coordinates.
> If the MT protocol says we should always report on the single-touch side
> the first contact, then I guess it's better to do so. However, I've just
> read the latest version of the mt-protocol document, and couldn't see
> anything saying that. Are you sure this is the official behavior? I'd
> tend to think that single-touch and multi-touch are never read together,
> so they can be different.
It is true that there are no specific section on how to handle the ABS_X/Y
events, and different drivers have slightly different strategies. However,
common to them all is that a single finger is consistently used to report the
events.
> More specifically, on this hardware, when there are two fingers, we get
> only the lower coordinates and the higher coordinates, but we don't know
> exactly where are the fingers. As there is no tracking, the lower
> coordinate might be the second finger applied, so even if we report just
> the lower coordinates, there is 75% chance that the cursor will jump.
Perhaps it is better to not report ABS_X/Y at all in the case of two fingers on
this trackpad. With any reasonable userspace driver, the ABS_X/Y will be masked
out anyways.
> That's actually the reason I prefer the average: it gives a 100%
> expectable behavior (because the average is always correct). In
> practice, when using the xorg synaptics driver, with the default
> 2-fingers-scrolling mode, the cursor never jumps because as soon as the
> second finger is applied, X and Y are not used to move the cursor.
It is predictable, but it is still bad behavior. ;-)
> So, I think this patch is an improvement for the user, but if you think
> that it would not respect the MT protocol, just drop it.
Either dropping the patch or muting ABS_X/Y in case of multiple fingers is what
I would recommend.
Cheers,
Henrik
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-30 21:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-21 20:59 [PATCH 0/7] elantech: various improvements for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] elantech: Describe further the protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] [NEEDS TEST] elantech: discard the first 2 positions reports for some firmwares Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:03 ` [PATCH 3/7] elantech: distinguish various hardware/firmware versions Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:04 ` [PATCH 4/7] elantech: implement data check for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:05 ` [PATCH 6/7] elantech: export pressure and width when supported Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:06 ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21 3:36 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:55 ` Éric Piel
2010-07-30 21:01 ` Henrik Rydberg [this message]
2010-07-30 21:41 ` Éric Piel
2010-07-31 9:28 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 9:33 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-31 12:49 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 23:00 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01 7:52 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 19:56 ` Chris Bagwell
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=cEEx-5eQPbRYvMMaECvXKQ+i-e0Eaw_g4JY7=@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 23:04 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01 9:37 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-01 11:28 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01 13:57 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 8:17 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 10:02 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:12 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:22 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:33 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:46 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:13 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 12:29 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:46 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 13:03 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 13:23 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 14:12 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 16:39 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:15 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-08 22:51 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:52 ` [PATCH 07/10] elantech: Report multitouch with proper ABS_MT messages Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:53 ` [PATCH 08/10] elantech: track finger to distinguish coordinates in 2-finger report Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:54 ` [PATCH 09/10] elantech: remove support for proprietary X driver Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:55 ` [PATCH 10/10] elantech: don't take into account the border size in the calculations Éric Piel
2010-08-02 16:26 ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:05 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-01 7:36 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-06-21 21:07 ` [PATCH 5/7] elantech: report position also with 3 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21 3:38 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:37 ` Éric Piel
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