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From: "Éric Piel" <E.A.B.Piel@tudelft.nl>
To: Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@euromail.se>
Cc: Chris Bagwell <chris@cnpbagwell.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	"linux-input@vger.kernel.org" <linux-input@vger.kernel.org>,
	Florian Ragwitz <rafl@debian.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:46:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C56BE30.2070807@tudelft.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C56BA13.3030104@euromail.se>

Op 02-08-10 14:29, Henrik Rydberg schreef:
> On 08/02/2010 02:13 PM, Éric Piel wrote:
:
>>> The above tells me that the MT situation did not improve much, and that the
>>> major improvement is to paper over the synaptics problem.
>> For me it has changed because my argument was "with two finger we report
>> crap anyway, so let's report the average". With the tracking, we
>> actually (often) report the real position of the fingers, so this
>> argument is not valid anymore. Now we can happily say we conform to the
>> official protocols: ST (which apparently requires to always reports an
>> actual position), and MT-A.
> 
> 
> It does not comply with MT-A as long as two semi-random corners of a rectangle
> are reported.
Fair enough. Without the tracking patch it complied with MT-A 50% of the
time, with it it's 75% of the time... I guess it's still not called
"complying" ;-)


>>> The argument to go forward implementing protocol B is that the current patch
>>> actually does proper two-finger tracking to the extent that it is possible.
>>> Since mtdev cannot improve the fact that this device does not following fingers
>>> but corners, it makes sense to treat this device specially, and implement the
>>> extra lines in the kernel to make it as good as it can be. Alternatively, one
>>> can give up the idea of using MT in this driver altogether, and just implement
>>> the mean position ABS_X/Y, old-style.
>> Do you think that if we implement full tracking in kernel, we can do
>> _better_ than the small tracking + mtdev? I don't think so (but, hey,
>> I've been tinkering with multitouch for something like 20h in my life,
>> so I might have missed something ;-) ). If you have in mind a better
>> performing algorithm, then let me know, and I'll happily implement it in
>> kernel :-)
> 
> 
> We can do better in the sense that since the device cannot comply with MT-A, we
> can do as close as possible to MT-B with less cpu usage. But frankly, the best
> solution at this stage seems to be to drop MT handling altogether, since there
> does not seem to be any plan to use it.
Ah, this alternative solution is a bit boring ;-) In addition it's not
compatible with my own master plan to eventually have the "pinch to
zoom" and "rotate to rotate" gestures work on my laptop, like in Windows ;-)

So, let's agree on just the two patches I'm going to send to support
"better than nothing" MT-protocol for now. When, later, someone has
better ideas, he can send patches to improve MT-protocol
support/compliance. Fine?

Eric
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-02 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-21 20:59 [PATCH 0/7] elantech: various improvements for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] elantech: Describe further the protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:02 ` [PATCH 2/7] [NEEDS TEST] elantech: discard the first 2 positions reports for some firmwares Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:03 ` [PATCH 3/7] elantech: distinguish various hardware/firmware versions Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:04 ` [PATCH 4/7] elantech: implement data check for 6-byte protocol Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:05 ` [PATCH 6/7] elantech: export pressure and width when supported Éric Piel
2010-06-21 21:06 ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21  3:36   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:55     ` Éric Piel
2010-07-30 21:01       ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-30 21:41         ` Éric Piel
2010-07-31  9:28           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31  9:33             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-31 12:49               ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 23:00                 ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01  7:52                   ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-07-31 19:56           ` Chris Bagwell
     [not found]         ` <AANLkTi=cEEx-5eQPbRYvMMaECvXKQ+i-e0Eaw_g4JY7=@mail.gmail.com>
2010-07-31 23:04           ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01  9:37             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-01 11:28               ` Éric Piel
2010-08-01 13:57                 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02  8:17                   ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 10:02                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:12                       ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:22                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 11:33                           ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 11:46                             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:13                               ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 12:29                                 ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 12:46                                   ` Éric Piel [this message]
2010-08-02 13:03                                     ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 13:23                                       ` Éric Piel
2010-08-02 14:12                                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-02 16:39                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:15                                         ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-08 22:51                                         ` Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:52                                           ` [PATCH 07/10] elantech: Report multitouch with proper ABS_MT messages Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:53                                           ` [PATCH 08/10] elantech: track finger to distinguish coordinates in 2-finger report Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:54                                           ` [PATCH 09/10] elantech: remove support for proprietary X driver Éric Piel
2010-08-08 22:55                                           ` [PATCH 10/10] elantech: don't take into account the border size in the calculations Éric Piel
2010-08-02 16:26                           ` [PATCH 7/7] elantech: average the two coordinates when 2 fingers Dmitry Torokhov
2010-08-02 17:05                             ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-08-01  7:36           ` Henrik Rydberg
2010-06-21 21:07 ` [PATCH 5/7] elantech: report position also with 3 fingers Éric Piel
2010-07-21  3:38   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-07-30 18:37     ` Éric Piel

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