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From: Jiri Slaby <jirislaby@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Nix <nix@esperi.org.uk>, Artur Skawina <art.08.09@gmail.com>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venki@google.com>,
	Damien Wyart <damien.wyart@free.fr>,
	John Drescher <drescherjm@gmail.com>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [BISECTED] 2.6.35.*: horrible (exponential? >linear) slowdown to unusability (HPET)
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:41:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C89FD56.6060505@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1009101022400.2477@localhost6.localdomain6>

On 09/10/2010 10:37 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Nix wrote:
> 
>> On 10 Sep 2010, Artur Skawina spake thusly:
>>> I'm seeing this too, except here it happens every couple of days of uptime,
>>> lasts for a few minutes, and then goes away. Which made bisecting a bit
>>> impractical... Thank you for doing it. 
>>
>> I just happened to be the lucky sod for whom it was consistently going
>> wrong. :)
>>
>>> HW is similar; x64 and X58/82801JI/ICH10, tsc clocksrc.
>>> Did that printk trigger?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> (hm, odd.
>>
>> spindle:~# cat /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource
>> tsc
>>
>> spindle:~# grep -i tsc /proc/timer_list
>> spindle:~# grep -i hpet /proc/timer_list
>> Clock Event Device: hpet
>>  set_next_event: hpet_legacy_next_event
>>  set_mode:       hpet_legacy_set_mode
>>
>> I suspect current_clocksource doesn't do what we think it does, or the
>> clocksource and 'clock event device' are not the same.)
> 
> Right, they are not the same. clocksource provides us a read out
> device for timekeeping (usually a simple increasing counter). clock
> event device is used to generate timer interrupts.
> 
> HPET provides both functionalities.
> 
> The patch you bisected is affecting the clock events part of the
> HPET. So yes, it's not a clock source problem.

AFAIU, clocksource=jiffies shouldn't fix this issue. If that's the case
we have another 2.6.32->2.6.33 regression (and I will report it
separately). People report the system is unusable (sleepers are not
woken), unless clocksource=jiffies, clocksource=tsc or nolapic_timer is
used or a key pressed (i.e. some HW interrupt):
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579932
(there is also a report with 2.6.35.3 vanilla)

thanks,
-- 
js

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-10  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-05  0:51 2.6.35.*: horrible (exponential? >linear) slowdown to unusability (ACPI idle?) Nix
2010-09-06  5:32 ` Damien Wyart
2010-09-06 20:27   ` Nix
2010-09-07  5:36     ` Damien Wyart
2010-09-08 21:24   ` Nix
2010-09-08 21:35     ` John Drescher
2010-09-08 22:25       ` Nix
2010-09-09 22:34     ` [BISECTED] 2.6.35.*: horrible (exponential? >linear) slowdown to unusability (HPET) Nix
2010-09-09 23:44       ` John Drescher
2010-09-09 23:57         ` Nix
2010-09-10  0:08           ` John Drescher
2010-09-10  0:14             ` John Drescher
2010-09-10  0:59       ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-10  5:36         ` Damien Wyart
2010-09-10  7:42         ` Nix
2010-09-10  7:47           ` Damien Wyart
2010-09-10  8:37           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-10  9:41             ` Jiri Slaby [this message]
2010-09-10 13:22               ` Artur Skawina
2010-09-10 20:13                 ` Nix
2010-09-10 20:12               ` Nix
2010-09-14 10:09             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-14 20:17               ` Nix
2010-09-14 22:18                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-14 22:23                 ` Artur Skawina

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