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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 3/3] disk: don't read from disk until the guest starts
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 15:16:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C8F759B.7030805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8F6FB6.1000503@codemonkey.ws>

  On 09/14/2010 02:51 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 09/14/2010 04:47 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>  On 09/13/2010 04:34 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> On 09/13/2010 09:13 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>>> I think the only real advantage is that we fix NFS migration, right?
>>>> That's the one that we know about, yes.
>>>>
>>>> The rest is not a specific scenario, but a strong feeling that 
>>>> having an
>>>> image opened twice at the same time feels dangerous.
>>>
>>> We've never really had clear semantics about live migration and 
>>> block driver's life cycles.  At a high level, for live migration to 
>>> work, we need the following sequence:
>>>
>>> 1) src> flush all pending writes to disk
>>> 2) <barrier>
>>> 3) dst> invalidate any cached data
>>> 4) dst> start guest
>>
>> That's pretty complicated, compared to
>>
>> 1) src> close
>
> 1.5) <barrier>
>
>> 2) dst> open
>> 3) dst> start guest
>
> You need to make sure the open happens *after* the close.
>
> You're just using close to flush all pending writes or open to 
> invalidate any cached data.


Right, that's simpler than teaching all block format drivers about 
invalidating any cached data, or using nfs locks to force the host to do 
the same.

It also complies with close-to-open consistency without relying on 
implementation details.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-14 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-11 14:04 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Fix caching issues with live migration Anthony Liguori
2010-09-11 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] block: allow migration to work with image files Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 10:37   ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 13:06     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 13:28       ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 15:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 16:06           ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 17:10             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 17:51               ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:00                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-09-15 15:57         ` Juan Quintela
2010-09-13  8:21   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 13:27     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-15 16:03     ` Juan Quintela
2010-09-16  7:54       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-15 15:53   ` Juan Quintela
2010-09-11 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] block-nbd: fix use of protocols in backing files and nbd probing Anthony Liguori
2010-09-11 16:53   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-11 17:27     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-11 17:45       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-15 16:06   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-09-16 15:40     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-17  8:53       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-16  8:08   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-16 13:00     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-16 14:08       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-11 14:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] disk: don't read from disk until the guest starts Anthony Liguori
2010-09-11 17:24   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-11 17:34     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 10:42   ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 13:08     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 13:26       ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 15:29         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-12 16:04           ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15 16:10       ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-09-13  8:32   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 13:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 13:39       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 13:42         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-13 14:13           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 14:34             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-14  9:47               ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 12:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-14 13:16                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-09-13 19:29             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-09-13 20:03               ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-13 20:09                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-09-14  8:28                   ` Kevin Wolf
2010-09-15 16:16     ` Juan Quintela
2010-09-12 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH 0/3] Fix caching issues with live migration Avi Kivity
2010-09-12 13:12   ` Anthony Liguori

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