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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	chrisw@redhat.com,
	"Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)" <jvrao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Oct 19
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:22:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBD9B87.9010008@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CBD93B8.9070002@redhat.com>

On 10/19/2010 07:48 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
> On 10/19/2010 04:11 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
>> * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> Please send in any agenda items you are interested in covering.
>>
>> - 0.13.X -stable handoff
>> - 0.14 planning
>> - threadlet work
>> - virtfs proposals
>>
>
> - Live snapshots
>   - We were asked to add this feature for external qcow2
>     images. Will simple approach of fsync + tracking each requested
>     backing file (it can be per vDisk) and re-open the new image would
>     be accepted?

I had assumed that this would involve:

qemu -hda windows.img

(qemu) snapshot ide0-disk0 snap0.img

1) create snap0.img internally by doing the equivalent of `qemu-img 
create -f qcow2 -b windows.img snap0.img'
2) bdrv_flush('ide0-disk0')
3) bdrv_open(snap0.img)
4) bdrv_close(windows.img)
5) rename('windows.img', 'windows.img.tmp')
6) rename('snap0.img', 'windows.img')
7) rename('windows.img.tmp', 'snap0.img')

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>   - Integration with FS freeze for consistent guest app snapshot
>     Many apps do not sync their ram state to disk correctly or frequent
>     enough. Physical world backup software calls fs freeze on xfs and
>     VSS for windows to make the backup consistent.
>     In order to integrated this with live snapshots we need a guest
>     agent to trigger the guest fs freeze.
>     We can either have qemu communicate with the agent directly through
>     virtio-serial or have a mgmt daemon use virtio-serial to
>     communicate with the guest in addition to QMP messages about the
>     live snapshot state.
>     Preferences? The first solution complicates qemu while the second
>     complicates mgmt.
> -- 
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> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: dlaor@redhat.com
Cc: chrisw@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Ayal Baron <abaron@redhat.com>,
	"Venkateswararao Jujjuri (JV)" <jvrao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Oct 19
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:22:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CBD9B87.9010008@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CBD93B8.9070002@redhat.com>

On 10/19/2010 07:48 AM, Dor Laor wrote:
> On 10/19/2010 04:11 AM, Chris Wright wrote:
>> * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
>>>
>>> Please send in any agenda items you are interested in covering.
>>
>> - 0.13.X -stable handoff
>> - 0.14 planning
>> - threadlet work
>> - virtfs proposals
>>
>
> - Live snapshots
>   - We were asked to add this feature for external qcow2
>     images. Will simple approach of fsync + tracking each requested
>     backing file (it can be per vDisk) and re-open the new image would
>     be accepted?

I had assumed that this would involve:

qemu -hda windows.img

(qemu) snapshot ide0-disk0 snap0.img

1) create snap0.img internally by doing the equivalent of `qemu-img 
create -f qcow2 -b windows.img snap0.img'
2) bdrv_flush('ide0-disk0')
3) bdrv_open(snap0.img)
4) bdrv_close(windows.img)
5) rename('windows.img', 'windows.img.tmp')
6) rename('snap0.img', 'windows.img')
7) rename('windows.img.tmp', 'snap0.img')

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>   - Integration with FS freeze for consistent guest app snapshot
>     Many apps do not sync their ram state to disk correctly or frequent
>     enough. Physical world backup software calls fs freeze on xfs and
>     VSS for windows to make the backup consistent.
>     In order to integrated this with live snapshots we need a guest
>     agent to trigger the guest fs freeze.
>     We can either have qemu communicate with the agent directly through
>     virtio-serial or have a mgmt daemon use virtio-serial to
>     communicate with the guest in addition to QMP messages about the
>     live snapshot state.
>     Preferences? The first solution complicates qemu while the second
>     complicates mgmt.
> -- 
> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org
> More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-18 15:43 KVM call agenda for Oct 19 Juan Quintela
2010-10-18 15:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-10-19  2:11 ` Chris Wright
2010-10-19  2:11   ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2010-10-19 12:48   ` Dor Laor
2010-10-19 12:48     ` Dor Laor
2010-10-19 12:55     ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 12:55       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 12:58       ` Dor Laor
2010-10-19 12:58         ` Dor Laor
2010-10-19 13:03         ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:03           ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:18           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:18             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:22     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-10-19 13:22       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:27       ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:27         ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:33           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:38           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 13:38             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2010-10-19 13:55             ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:55               ` Avi Kivity
2010-10-19 13:28     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 13:28       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found] <314565543.45891287507100965.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
2010-10-19 16:54 ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-19 16:54   ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-19 17:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 17:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-20  9:18     ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-20  9:18       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-10-20  9:41       ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-20  9:41         ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-20 13:05       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-20 13:05         ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found] <512838278.79671287521779658.JavaMail.root@zmail07.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com>
2010-10-19 20:57 ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-19 20:57   ` Ayal Baron
2010-10-19 21:19   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-10-19 21:19     ` Anthony Liguori

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