yocto tools on a nokia n800

yocto tools on a nokia n800

[tiagoprn]

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 Hello everyone!

 I have a question. I have just read about the yocto/poky projects and here
I am with a hope. :)

 I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet abandoned by Nokia just about 2
years ago).

 With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible to install a linux toolchain
with X and the touchscreen/wireless components working, for an example, in a
SD Card and boot my device into it?

 I'm anxious for that.

 Thanks for your support.

 Regard,


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Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[Bruce Ashfield]

On 10-10-29 07:50 AM, tiagoprn wrote:
>   Hello everyone!
>
>   I have a question. I have just read about the yocto/poky projects and here I am with a hope. :)
>
>   I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet abandoned by Nokia just about 2 years ago).
>
>   With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible to install a linux toolchain with X and the touchscreen/wireless components working, for an example, in a SD Card and boot my device into it?

I can comment on some of this from the kernel point of view,
I'll leave others to comment on platform/project/userspace
issues.

It is definitely possible to enable (basic or more capabilities)
in the N800 (in particular since most of the required support
is mainline) in the yocto kernel (or other). We could extend
the common set of features and sanity to the n800 and then
enable peripherals or boot methods .. it all depends on the
capabilities and interest.

maintable/doable in the kernel and userspace has the required
capabilities (from my point of view), so this is something
that could come back (others can comment more on the previous
support), with a little bit of assistance.

Cheers,

Bruce

>
>   I'm anxious for that.
>
>   Thanks for your support.
>
>   Regard,
>
>

Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[Tom Zanussi]

On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 04:50 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
>  Hello everyone!
>  
>  I have a question. I have just read about the yocto/poky projects and
> here I am with a hope. :)
>  
>  I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet abandoned by Nokia just about
> 2 years ago). 
>  
>  With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible to install a linux
> toolchain with X and the touchscreen/wireless components working, for
> an example, in a SD Card and boot my device into it?
>  
>  I'm anxious for that. 
>  

Hi,

It looks like yocto already has support for the n800 - there's this
entry in local.conf:

# Other supported machines
.
.






#MACHINE ?= "nokia800"


and see this section in README.hardware:

'Nokia 770/N800/N810 Internet Tablets (nokia770 and nokia800)'

which says:

"The nokia800 images and kernel will run on both the N800 and N810"

Sounds like what you're looking for...

Tom

Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[Bruce Ashfield]

On 10-10-30 12:20 PM, Tom Zanussi wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 04:50 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
>>   Hello everyone!
>>
>>   I have a question. I have just read about the yocto/poky projects and
>> here I am with a hope. :)
>>
>>   I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet abandoned by Nokia just about
>> 2 years ago).
>>
>>   With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible to install a linux
>> toolchain with X and the touchscreen/wireless components working, for
>> an example, in a SD Card and boot my device into it?
>>
>>   I'm anxious for that.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> It looks like yocto already has support for the n800 - there's this
> entry in local.conf:
>
> # Other supported machines
> .
> .
>
>
>
>
>
>
> #MACHINE ?= "nokia800"
>
>
> and see this section in README.hardware:
>
> 'Nokia 770/N800/N810 Internet Tablets (nokia770 and nokia800)'
>
> which says:
>
> "The nokia800 images and kernel will run on both the N800 and N810"
>
> Sounds like what you're looking for...

The rest of the config has been moved to meta-extras, and
we'd need to do a bit of kernel work, but it has worked in the past, and 
could work again in the future.

In other words 'I agree'.

Cheers,

Bruce

>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> yocto mailing list
> yocto@yoctoproject.org
> https://lists.pokylinux.org/listinfo/yocto

Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[tiagoprn]

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Hello again!

I think nokia n8xx could be a nice example of what yocto/poky are capable
of.

Especially now that Nokia has abandoned this devices, it would be cool to
have a new OS being supported on it.

I'm new to poky, so, if you could make it easier to build the toochain to
build it to a n800, me and many other n8xx owners would be quite happy.

Regards,


2010/11/1 Bruce Ashfield <bruce.ashfield@windriver.com>

> On 10-10-30 12:20 PM, Tom Zanussi wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 04:50 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello everyone!
>>>
>>>  I have a question. I have just read about the yocto/poky projects and
>>> here I am with a hope. :)
>>>
>>>  I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet abandoned by Nokia just about
>>> 2 years ago).
>>>
>>>  With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible to install a linux
>>> toolchain with X and the touchscreen/wireless components working, for
>>> an example, in a SD Card and boot my device into it?
>>>
>>>  I'm anxious for that.
>>>
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It looks like yocto already has support for the n800 - there's this
>> entry in local.conf:
>>
>> # Other supported machines
>> .
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> #MACHINE ?= "nokia800"
>>
>>
>> and see this section in README.hardware:
>>
>> 'Nokia 770/N800/N810 Internet Tablets (nokia770 and nokia800)'
>>
>> which says:
>>
>> "The nokia800 images and kernel will run on both the N800 and N810"
>>
>> Sounds like what you're looking for...
>>
>
> The rest of the config has been moved to meta-extras, and
> we'd need to do a bit of kernel work, but it has worked in the past, and
> could work again in the future.
>
> In other words 'I agree'.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bruce
>
>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> yocto mailing list
>> yocto@yoctoproject.org
>> https://lists.pokylinux.org/listinfo/yocto
>>
>
>


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Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[Tom Zanussi]

On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 06:20 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
> Hello again!
> 
> I think nokia n8xx could be a nice example of what yocto/poky are
> capable of.
> 
> Especially now that Nokia has abandoned this devices, it would be cool
> to have a new OS being supported on it. 
> 

Yes, I agree.

> I'm new to poky, so, if you could make it easier to build the toochain
> to build it to a n800, me and many other n8xx owners would be quite
> happy. 

Right, it doesn't seem to be working out of the box - I'll take a look
and see if we can't rescue it from meta-extras...

BTW, I'd actually like to have one of these for myself - can you suggest
a source for them other than eBay?

Thanks,

Tom

> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> 2010/11/1 Bruce Ashfield <bruce.ashfield@windriver.com>
>         
>         On 10-10-30 12:20 PM, Tom Zanussi wrote:
>                 On Fri, 2010-10-29 at 04:50 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
>                          Hello everyone!
>                         
>                          I have a question. I have just read about the
>                         yocto/poky projects and
>                         here I am with a hope. :)
>                         
>                          I have a nokia n800 (an internet tablet
>                         abandoned by Nokia just about
>                         2 years ago).
>                         
>                          With poky/yocto project tools, is it possible
>                         to install a linux
>                         toolchain with X and the touchscreen/wireless
>                         components working, for
>                         an example, in a SD Card and boot my device
>                         into it?
>                         
>                          I'm anxious for that.
>                         
>                 
>                 Hi,
>                 
>                 It looks like yocto already has support for the n800 -
>                 there's this
>                 entry in local.conf:
>                 
>                 # Other supported machines
>                 .
>                 .
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 #MACHINE ?= "nokia800"
>                 
>                 
>                 and see this section in README.hardware:
>                 
>                 'Nokia 770/N800/N810 Internet Tablets (nokia770 and
>                 nokia800)'
>                 
>                 which says:
>                 
>                 "The nokia800 images and kernel will run on both the
>                 N800 and N810"
>                 
>                 Sounds like what you're looking for...
>         
>         
>         The rest of the config has been moved to meta-extras, and
>         we'd need to do a bit of kernel work, but it has worked in the
>         past, and could work again in the future.
>         
>         In other words 'I agree'.
>         
>         Cheers,
>         
>         Bruce
>         
>                 
>                 Tom
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
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>         
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: yocto tools on a nokia n800

[Richard Purdie]

On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 09:48 -0500, Tom Zanussi wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-11-02 at 06:20 -0700, tiagoprn wrote:
> > Hello again!
> > 
> > I think nokia n8xx could be a nice example of what yocto/poky are
> > capable of.
> > 
> > Especially now that Nokia has abandoned this devices, it would be cool
> > to have a new OS being supported on it. 
> > 
> 
> Yes, I agree.
> 
> > I'm new to poky, so, if you could make it easier to build the toochain
> > to build it to a n800, me and many other n8xx owners would be quite
> > happy. 
> 
> Right, it doesn't seem to be working out of the box - I'll take a look
> and see if we can't rescue it from meta-extras...
> 
> BTW, I'd actually like to have one of these for myself - can you suggest
> a source for them other than eBay?

Let me chip in with some information here. Poky used to support the n800
machine semi-officially and it ran sato quite well including the wiki
and touchscreen. The problem has been that the xserver and kernel
recipes were not updated, Poky moved on and these older versions no
longer worked/interacted well. For this reason, the machine was moved to
meta-extras as it no longer worked.

I know its possible to make it work again and there shouldn't be massive
amounts of effort needed. If someone does step up and fixes it up and
agrees to maintain it, the machine can come back. It is going to need
someone to give it some TLC though.

Cheers,

Richard