* Re: AT91 IDE module [not found] <4CEB8FB8.80702@tcz.cz> @ 2010-11-23 21:00 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2010-11-24 9:36 ` Radovan Vápeník 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-23 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Radovan Vápeník; +Cc: linux-ide Hi (cc linux-ide) On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:56:08AM +0100, Radovan Vápeník wrote: > Hello Stanislaw, > i am working on custom board with AT91SAM9263, i am trying to start > communication with CompactFlash throught your kernel driver (true > ide mode). I have problem to connect CF to file to /dev directory. > After module load kernel prints message "ide0 at > 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132" without some > identification in /dev/(hda). Can you help me, what can be wrong? > Wires connections betweent processor and CF should be ok. > > I have these options in kernel: > CONFIG_IDE > CONFIG_IDE_GD > CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA > CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL > CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PLATFORM > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_AT91 CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS is also needed, but this should be selected if CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_AT91 was chosen. If there is no info in /proc/partitions, then disc was not detected. It's hard to tell why without more verbose messages. Add "EXTRA_CFLAGS += -DDEBUG" to drivers/ide/Makefile and provide full dmesg output. Stanislaw ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-23 21:00 ` AT91 IDE module Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-24 9:36 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-11-24 21:50 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-11-24 9:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stanislaw Gruszka; +Cc: linux-ide Stanislaw Gruszka napsal(a): > Hi > > (cc linux-ide) > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:56:08AM +0100, Radovan Vápeník wrote: > >> Hello Stanislaw, >> i am working on custom board with AT91SAM9263, i am trying to start >> communication with CompactFlash throught your kernel driver (true >> ide mode). I have problem to connect CF to file to /dev directory. >> After module load kernel prints message "ide0 at >> 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132" without some >> identification in /dev/(hda). Can you help me, what can be wrong? >> Wires connections betweent processor and CF should be ok. >> >> I have these options in kernel: >> CONFIG_IDE >> CONFIG_IDE_GD >> CONFIG_IDE_GD_ATA >> CONFIG_IDE_TASK_IOCTL >> CONFIG_IDE_PROC_FS >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_PLATFORM >> CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_AT91 >> > > CONFIG_IDE_TIMINGS is also needed, but this should be selected if > CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_AT91 was chosen. > > If there is no info in /proc/partitions, then disc was not detected. > It's hard to tell why without more verbose messages. Add > "EXTRA_CFLAGS += -DDEBUG" to drivers/ide/Makefile and provide full > dmesg output. > > Stanislaw > > Hello, i have only mtdblock0 in /proc/partitions (it is NAND), about CF is nothing. There is my dmesg output, the important is on end of list. Linux version 2.6.30 (root@black) (gcc version 4.3.3 (GCC) ) #55 Wed Nov 24 09:06:41 CET 2010 CPU: ARM926EJ-S [41069265] revision 5 (ARMv5TEJ), cr=00053177 CPU: VIVT data cache, VIVT instruction cache Machine: Atmel AT91SAM9263-EK Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writeback On node 0 totalpages: 16384 free_area_init_node: node 0, pgdat c02f1b00, node_mem_map c0309000 Normal zone: 128 pages used for memmap Normal zone: 0 pages reserved Normal zone: 16256 pages, LIFO batch:3 Clocks: CPU 198 MHz, master 99 MHz, main 18.432 MHz Built 1 zonelists in Zone order, mobility grouping on. Total pages: 16256 Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.0.126:/home/kremilek/ARM/angstrom/base_image/ ip=192.168.0.200:192.168.0.126::255.255.255.0::eth0:off NR_IRQS:192 AT91: 160 gpio irqs in 5 banks PID hash table entries: 256 (order: 8, 1024 bytes) Console: colour dummy device 80x30 console [ttyS0] enabled Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes) Inode-cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) Memory: 64MB = 64MB total Memory: 61792KB available (2652K code, 222K data, 112K init, 0K highmem) Calibrating delay loop... 99.12 BogoMIPS (lpj=495616) Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 CPU: Testing write buffer coherency: ok net_namespace: 296 bytes NET: Registered protocol family 16 tcb_clksrc: tc0 at 12.916 MHz bio: create slab <bio-0> at 0 SCSI subsystem initialized usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs usbcore: registered new interface driver hub usbcore: registered new device driver usb NET: Registered protocol family 2 IP route cache hash table entries: 1024 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) TCP established hash table entries: 2048 (order: 2, 16384 bytes) TCP bind hash table entries: 2048 (order: 1, 8192 bytes) TCP: Hash tables configured (established 2048 bind 2048) TCP reno registered NET: Registered protocol family 1 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.97 (double precision) squashfs: version 4.0 (2009/01/31) Phillip Lougher JFFS2 version 2.2. (NAND) (SUMMARY) © 2001-2006 Red Hat, Inc. msgmni has been set to 120 alg: No test for stdrng (krng) io scheduler noop registered io scheduler anticipatory registered (default) atmel_lcdfb atmel_lcdfb.0: 300KiB frame buffer at 23980000 (mapped at ffc00000) Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30 atmel_lcdfb atmel_lcdfb.0: fb0: Atmel LCDC at 0x00700000 (mapped at c485c000), irq 26 atmel_usart.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0xfeffee00 (irq = 1) is a ATMEL_SERIAL atmel_usart.1: ttyS1 at MMIO 0xfff8c000 (irq = 7) is a ATMEL_SERIAL brd: module loaded loop: module loaded Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver MACB_mii_bus: probed eth0: Atmel MACB at 0xfffbc000 irq 21 (00:00:45:58:14:11) eth0: attached PHY driver [Davicom DM9161A] (mii_bus:phy_addr=ffffffff:00, irq=-1) NAND device: Manufacturer ID: 0x2c, Chip ID: 0xda (Micron NAND 256MiB 3,3V 8-bit) AT91 NAND: 8-bit, Software ECC Scanning device for bad blocks Bad eraseblock 1024 at 0x000008000000 Bad eraseblock 1025 at 0x000008020000 Creating 2 MTD partitions on "atmel_nand": 0x000000000000-0x000004000000 : "Partition 1" 0x000004000000-0x000010000000 : "Partition 2" ohci_hcd: USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver at91_ohci at91_ohci: AT91 OHCI at91_ohci at91_ohci: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 at91_ohci at91_ohci: irq 29, io mem 0x00a00000 usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected udc: at91_udc version 3 May 2006 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice input: gpio-keys as /class/input/input0 Registered led device: ds1 Registered led device: ds2 Registered led device: ds3 TCP cubic registered NET: Registered protocol family 17 RPC: Registered udp transport module. RPC: Registered tcp transport module. usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using at91_ohci and address 2 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice IP-Config: Complete: device=eth0, addr=192.168.0.200, mask=255.255.255.0, gw=255.255.255.255, host=192.168.0.200, domain=, nis-domain=(none), bootserver=192.168.0.126, rootserver=192.168.0.126, rootpath= Looking up port of RPC 100003/2 on 192.168.0.126 eth0: link up (100/Full) Looking up port of RPC 100005/1 on 192.168.0.126 VFS: Mounted root (nfs filesystem) on device 0:11. Freeing init memory: 112K udevd version 124 started at91_ide_probe chipselect 4 irq 132 res 50000000 apply_timings t0=600 t1=70 t2=290 t6z=30 apply_timings mck_hz=99328000 apply_timings cycle=60 setup=7 pulse=29 data_float=3 Probing IDE interface ide0... probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI ide0 at 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132 Radovan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-24 9:36 ` Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-11-24 21:50 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2010-11-25 20:53 ` Radovan Vapeník 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-24 21:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Radovan Vápeník; +Cc: linux-ide On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:36:37AM +0100, Radovan Vápeník wrote: > at91_ide_probe chipselect 4 irq 132 res 50000000 > apply_timings t0=600 t1=70 t2=290 t6z=30 > apply_timings mck_hz=99328000 > apply_timings cycle=60 setup=7 pulse=29 data_float=3 > Probing IDE interface ide0... > probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA > probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI > probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA > probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI > ide0 at 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132 We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that problem come in mind: - board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it - CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected to controller (also in board specific initialization code) To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device react properly and give some sensible status values. Stanislaw ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-24 21:50 ` Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-25 20:53 ` Radovan Vapeník 2010-11-26 18:20 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Radovan Vapeník @ 2010-11-25 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stanislaw Gruszka; +Cc: linux-ide Cituji Stanislaw Gruszka <stf_xl@wp.pl>: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:36:37AM +0100, Radovan Vápeník wrote: >> at91_ide_probe chipselect 4 irq 132 res 50000000 >> apply_timings t0=600 t1=70 t2=290 t6z=30 >> apply_timings mck_hz=99328000 >> apply_timings cycle=60 setup=7 pulse=29 data_float=3 >> Probing IDE interface ide0... >> probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA >> probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI >> probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA >> probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI >> ide0 at 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132 > > We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data > that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that > problem come in mind: > - board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper > reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in > struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it > - CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected > to controller (also in board specific initialization code) > > To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of > at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device > react properly and give some sensible status values. > > Stanislaw > Seems problem is really on reset pin, i have analysed using oscilloscope and on reset pin is still in logical "1", without change during module loading. I will try to find out why is this happening. Radovan ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-25 20:53 ` Radovan Vapeník @ 2010-11-26 18:20 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2010-11-29 14:12 ` Radovan Vápeník ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-26 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Radovan Vapeník; +Cc: linux-ide On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:53:19PM +0100, Radovan Vapeník wrote: > >We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data > >that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that > >problem come in mind: > >- board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper > > reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in > > struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it > >- CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected > > to controller (also in board specific initialization code) > > > >To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of > >at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device > >react properly and give some sensible status values. > > > >Stanislaw > > > > Seems problem is really on reset pin, i have analysed using > oscilloscope and on reset pin is still in logical "1", without > change during module loading. I will try to find out why is this > happening. I was unclear. Driver does not change reset pin. Reset need to be done in board initialization code. You have to add something like that #define RST_PIN AT91_PIN_PC5 at91_set_gpio_output(RST_PIN, 1); at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,0); mdelay(2); at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,1); in your arch/arm/mach-at91/board-NAME.c (I'm not sure if 2ms is correct IDE reset duration). Stanislaw ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-26 18:20 ` Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-11-29 14:12 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-11-30 14:32 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-12-02 16:10 ` Radovan Vápeník 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-11-29 14:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stanislaw Gruszka; +Cc: linux-ide Stanislaw Gruszka napsal(a): > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:53:19PM +0100, Radovan Vapeník wrote: > >>> We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data >>> that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that >>> problem come in mind: >>> - board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper >>> reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in >>> struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it >>> - CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected >>> to controller (also in board specific initialization code) >>> >>> To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of >>> at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device >>> react properly and give some sensible status values. >>> >>> Stanislaw >>> >>> >> Seems problem is really on reset pin, i have analysed using >> oscilloscope and on reset pin is still in logical "1", without >> change during module loading. I will try to find out why is this >> happening. >> > > I was unclear. Driver does not change reset pin. Reset need to be > done in board initialization code. You have to add something like that > > #define RST_PIN AT91_PIN_PC5 > at91_set_gpio_output(RST_PIN, 1); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,0); > mdelay(2); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,1); > > in your arch/arm/mach-at91/board-NAME.c (I'm not sure if 2ms is > correct IDE reset duration). > > Stanislaw > > On the data bus is something strange - I have scanned data bus using oscilloscope at the moment, when processor send CS signal to CompactFlash. The screenshot from oscilloscope is here - http://www.vapenik.com/files/cf_init.png. The yellow color is CFCS0, blue is one data pin on the data bus. The red arrow shows the possible problem - there is transient. And in 4. quadrant is some transient too, question is why it happens (but pc is working correctly, i boot linux without problem). This is on EBI0, there is connected NAND Flash + 2x SDRAM and Compact Flash. When I measured EBI0, the strange timing with transient is only on low 16 bits of EBI0 (http://www.vapenik.com/files/data-0-15.png , one random wire on data bus EBI0, low 16bits), high 16 bits are ok (http://www.vapenik.com/files/data-16-31.png , one random wire on EBI0, high 16 bits). But almost this same happens on Evaluation Board from Atmel, so I really don't know where is problem. Radovan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-26 18:20 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2010-11-29 14:12 ` Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-11-30 14:32 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-12-02 16:10 ` Radovan Vápeník 2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-11-30 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stanislaw Gruszka; +Cc: linux-ide Stanislaw Gruszka napsal(a): > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:53:19PM +0100, Radovan Vapeník wrote: > >>> We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data >>> that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that >>> problem come in mind: >>> - board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper >>> reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in >>> struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it >>> - CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected >>> to controller (also in board specific initialization code) >>> >>> To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of >>> at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device >>> react properly and give some sensible status values. >>> >>> Stanislaw >>> >>> >> Seems problem is really on reset pin, i have analysed using >> oscilloscope and on reset pin is still in logical "1", without >> change during module loading. I will try to find out why is this >> happening. >> > > I was unclear. Driver does not change reset pin. Reset need to be > done in board initialization code. You have to add something like that > > #define RST_PIN AT91_PIN_PC5 > at91_set_gpio_output(RST_PIN, 1); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,0); > mdelay(2); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,1); > > in your arch/arm/mach-at91/board-NAME.c (I'm not sure if 2ms is > correct IDE reset duration). > > Stanislaw > > I found out the reason of transients - it is caused by enabled pull-up resistor on lower 16 bits on EBI0 - bit EBI0_DBPUC shoul be set to "1", normally is set to "0". But the CF still no working, problem is is elsewhere. Radovan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-11-26 18:20 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2010-11-29 14:12 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-11-30 14:32 ` Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-12-02 16:10 ` Radovan Vápeník 2010-12-04 20:16 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-12-02 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stanislaw Gruszka; +Cc: linux-ide Stanislaw Gruszka napsal(a): > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 09:53:19PM +0100, Radovan Vapeník wrote: > >>> We do not detect any IDE device, registers do not contain status/data >>> that IDE layer expect. As far only two possible reasons of that >>> problem come in mind: >>> - board specific code does not reset CF device (with proper >>> reset duration?). This is expected, there is rst_pin in >>> struct at91_cf_data but driver does not use it >>> - CF 9 pin (ATA SEL) is not grounded or set to 0 if connected >>> to controller (also in board specific initialization code) >>> >>> To debug problem further, you can add your own code at the end of >>> at91_ide_probe(), which read/write IDE register to see if device >>> react properly and give some sensible status values. >>> >>> Stanislaw >>> >>> >> Seems problem is really on reset pin, i have analysed using >> oscilloscope and on reset pin is still in logical "1", without >> change during module loading. I will try to find out why is this >> happening. >> > > I was unclear. Driver does not change reset pin. Reset need to be > done in board initialization code. You have to add something like that > > #define RST_PIN AT91_PIN_PC5 > at91_set_gpio_output(RST_PIN, 1); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,0); > mdelay(2); > at91_set_gpio_value(RST_PIN,1); > > in your arch/arm/mach-at91/board-NAME.c (I'm not sure if 2ms is > correct IDE reset duration). > > Stanislaw > > I found out the reason of transients - it is caused by enabled pull-up resistor on lower 16 bits on EBI0 - bit EBI0_DBPUC shoul be set to "1", normally is set to "0". But the CF still no working, problem is is elsewhere. Radovan I had mistake in schematic - after repair I get some new debug messages - is possible to tell, what can be wrong? Thanks for advice at91_ide_probe chipselect 4 irq 132 res 50000000 apply_timings t0=600 t1=70 t2=290 t6z=30 apply_timings mck_hz=99328000 apply_timings cycle=60 setup=7 pulse=29 data_float=3 Probing IDE interface ide0... probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI hda: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00) hda: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI hdb: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) hdb: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) ide0 at 0xc4866000-0xc4866007,0xc486e006 on irq 132 Radovan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: AT91 IDE module 2010-12-02 16:10 ` Radovan Vápeník @ 2010-12-04 20:16 ` Stanislaw Gruszka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Stanislaw Gruszka @ 2010-12-04 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Radovan Vápeník; +Cc: linux-ide On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 05:10:21PM +0100, Radovan Vápeník wrote: > I had mistake in schematic - after repair I get some new debug > messages - is possible to tell, what can be wrong? Thanks for advice Unfortunately I don't know where the problem can be. > at91_ide_probe chipselect 4 irq 132 res 50000000 > apply_timings t0=600 t1=70 t2=290 t6z=30 > apply_timings mck_hz=99328000 > apply_timings cycle=60 setup=7 pulse=29 data_float=3 > Probing IDE interface ide0... > probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA > probing for hda: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI > hda: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x00) Strange that here alt status is 0x00 and in other places it is 0x1e. Also all bits in alt status except second one should be the same as in status register. First version of driver had bug where address of alt status was wrong, but that was fixed before driver was merged into the kernel. > hda: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) > probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATA > probing for hdb: present=0, media=32, probetype=ATAPI > hdb: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) > hdb: probing with STATUS(0xa0) instead of ALTSTATUS(0x1e) Status 0xa0 shows that BUSY bit is set, that definitely is wrong too. Stanislaw ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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