From: Carmelo AMOROSO <carmelo.amoroso@st.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH (sh-2.6) 1/2] sh: add stack smashing protection support
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:56:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D01C112.80101@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012091614.26353.vapier@gentoo.org>
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On 12/9/2010 10:14 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 13:23:55 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:45:30 Carmelo AMOROSO wrote:
>>>> On 12/9/2010 5:07 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:56:26 Carmelo AMOROSO wrote:
>>>>>> I agree with you that the Kconfig and Makefile changes are not arch
>>>>>> specific, so these changes can be moved to a common code (even if I
>>>>>> don't know if other archs do support SSP).
>>>>>> In the current kernel, only x86 and ARM added this support, so I'm
>>>>>> wondering if, moving SSP to the common Makefile, it needs to depend
>>>>>> on x86, ARM, SH being configured ?
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm not sure it does. ssp is designed to be arch independent, so
>>>>> really you only need a new enough gcc version. which means i dont
>>>>> think it needs to depend on any arch code and you can simply add to
>>>>> the Makefile a compiler check.
>>>>
>>>> agreed, but if arch wants to implement the per-task canary feature,
>>>> some change into arch specific code is required.
>>>
>>> yes, but that doesnt mean the common symbol definition needs to be
>>> duplicated
>>
>> We are talking about only one symbol here, which symbol is also
>> dependent on the way this feature is implemented in gcc (e.g. on x86 the
>> implementation is totally different and this symbol isn't used). So I
>> don't see a huge gain by defining this symbol in generic code, given the
>> number of lines involved in the addition of a new file, just for a
>> single symbol.
>
> you're right, a few targets dont have any symbol at all and do it through TLS.
> although that is more of an exception than a rule, so i'd still like to see
> the symbol in a common file. perhaps reverse selected by the arch Kconfig
> like "select ARCH_WANT_STACK_CHK_GUARD". or perhaps invert the logic so only
> the funky arches get punished.
>
Mike,
we will post a n update version of the patch.
> i might highlight that the way gcc/i386 manages its canary is dependent upon
> the C library it was compiled against, but i dont want to poke that nest as
> i'm not interested in making it work on that arch ;).
>
interesting... but x86 is out of scope for me too ;)
>>> i think you only need to test that gcc accepts -fstack-protector
>>> and then assume the rest ... i dont think you need to come up with random
>>> pieces of code and cajole the symbol references out of gcc.
>>
>> Would you care to elaborate?
>
> i simply mean that any makefile code checking for support need only look for
> gcc supporting -fstack-protector.
yes, sure
> -mike
cheers,
carmelo
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From: carmelo.amoroso@st.com (Carmelo AMOROSO)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH (sh-2.6) 1/2] sh: add stack smashing protection support
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:56:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D01C112.80101@st.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012091614.26353.vapier@gentoo.org>
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On 12/9/2010 10:14 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 13:23:55 Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:45:30 Carmelo AMOROSO wrote:
>>>> On 12/9/2010 5:07 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, December 09, 2010 10:56:26 Carmelo AMOROSO wrote:
>>>>>> I agree with you that the Kconfig and Makefile changes are not arch
>>>>>> specific, so these changes can be moved to a common code (even if I
>>>>>> don't know if other archs do support SSP).
>>>>>> In the current kernel, only x86 and ARM added this support, so I'm
>>>>>> wondering if, moving SSP to the common Makefile, it needs to depend
>>>>>> on x86, ARM, SH being configured ?
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm not sure it does. ssp is designed to be arch independent, so
>>>>> really you only need a new enough gcc version. which means i dont
>>>>> think it needs to depend on any arch code and you can simply add to
>>>>> the Makefile a compiler check.
>>>>
>>>> agreed, but if arch wants to implement the per-task canary feature,
>>>> some change into arch specific code is required.
>>>
>>> yes, but that doesnt mean the common symbol definition needs to be
>>> duplicated
>>
>> We are talking about only one symbol here, which symbol is also
>> dependent on the way this feature is implemented in gcc (e.g. on x86 the
>> implementation is totally different and this symbol isn't used). So I
>> don't see a huge gain by defining this symbol in generic code, given the
>> number of lines involved in the addition of a new file, just for a
>> single symbol.
>
> you're right, a few targets dont have any symbol at all and do it through TLS.
> although that is more of an exception than a rule, so i'd still like to see
> the symbol in a common file. perhaps reverse selected by the arch Kconfig
> like "select ARCH_WANT_STACK_CHK_GUARD". or perhaps invert the logic so only
> the funky arches get punished.
>
Mike,
we will post a n update version of the patch.
> i might highlight that the way gcc/i386 manages its canary is dependent upon
> the C library it was compiled against, but i dont want to poke that nest as
> i'm not interested in making it work on that arch ;).
>
interesting... but x86 is out of scope for me too ;)
>>> i think you only need to test that gcc accepts -fstack-protector
>>> and then assume the rest ... i dont think you need to come up with random
>>> pieces of code and cajole the symbol references out of gcc.
>>
>> Would you care to elaborate?
>
> i simply mean that any makefile code checking for support need only look for
> gcc supporting -fstack-protector.
yes, sure
> -mike
cheers,
carmelo
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-10 5:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-07 10:20 [PATCH (sh-2.6) 1/2] sh: add stack smashing protection support Filippo ARCIDIACONO
2010-12-07 10:20 ` Filippo ARCIDIACONO
2010-12-07 10:20 ` [PATCH (sh-2.6) 2/2] arm: use generic implementation of Filippo ARCIDIACONO
2010-12-07 10:20 ` [PATCH (sh-2.6) 2/2] arm: use generic implementation of boot_init_stack_canary Filippo ARCIDIACONO
2010-12-07 18:29 ` [PATCH (sh-2.6) 2/2] arm: use generic implementation of Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-07 18:29 ` [PATCH (sh-2.6) 2/2] arm: use generic implementation of boot_init_stack_canary Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-07 13:43 ` [PATCH (sh-2.6) 1/2] sh: add stack smashing protection support
2010-12-07 13:43 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-12-07 18:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-07 18:28 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-07 20:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-07 20:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-08 4:40 ` Paul Mundt
2010-12-08 4:40 ` Paul Mundt
2010-12-09 15:56 ` Carmelo AMOROSO
2010-12-09 15:56 ` Carmelo AMOROSO
2010-12-09 16:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-09 16:07 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-09 16:45 ` Carmelo AMOROSO
2010-12-09 16:45 ` Carmelo AMOROSO
2010-12-09 17:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-09 17:32 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-09 18:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-09 18:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-12-09 18:52 ` Carmelo Amoroso
2010-12-09 18:52 ` Carmelo Amoroso
2010-12-09 21:14 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-09 21:14 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-10 5:56 ` Carmelo AMOROSO [this message]
2010-12-10 5:56 ` Carmelo AMOROSO
2010-12-10 6:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2010-12-10 6:38 ` Mike Frysinger
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