From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com,
broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:30:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D078D9F.1060700@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012141525.02463.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 December 2010 14:31:55 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 December 2010 17:10:51 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > >> EXT_SPEAKER also includes headphones; there might be made a case for
> > >> having those as a separate subtype.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't headphones be represented by an EXT_JACK_ANALOG ?
> >
> > Headphone jacks are jacks; there are also USB headphones.
>
> So EXT_SPEAKER are speakers not connected through a jack (USB, internal
> analog, ...) ?
Yes.
When there is jack, the driver often does not know what is connected.
> > >> EXT_BROADCAST represents devices like TV tuners, satellite receivers,
> > >> cable tuners, or radios.
> > >
> > > There's clearly an overlap with V4L here.
> >
> > These come from the USB audio spec. Video devices are indeed likely to
> > be more detailed than just a single audio source. :)
>
> Does EXT_BROADCAST represent the TV tuner (or satellite receiver, cable tuner,
> radio tuner, ...) itself, or the connection between the tuner and the rest of
> the device ? Most TV tuner are currently handled by V4L2 and would thus turn
> up as V4L2 subdevs (I'm not sure if that's what we want in the long term, but
> it's at least the current situation).
>From the point of view of an audio device, this would be just some audio
source, much like a connector. We don't need this if there is some
better V4L entitity that the USB audio entity can be mapped to.
Regards,
Clemens
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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
sakari.ailus@maxwell.research.nokia.com,
broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, lennart@poettering.net,
linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [alsa-devel] [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 16:30:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D078D9F.1060700@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201012141525.02463.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Tuesday 14 December 2010 14:31:55 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Monday 13 December 2010 17:10:51 Clemens Ladisch wrote:
> > >> EXT_SPEAKER also includes headphones; there might be made a case for
> > >> having those as a separate subtype.
> > >
> > > Shouldn't headphones be represented by an EXT_JACK_ANALOG ?
> >
> > Headphone jacks are jacks; there are also USB headphones.
>
> So EXT_SPEAKER are speakers not connected through a jack (USB, internal
> analog, ...) ?
Yes.
When there is jack, the driver often does not know what is connected.
> > >> EXT_BROADCAST represents devices like TV tuners, satellite receivers,
> > >> cable tuners, or radios.
> > >
> > > There's clearly an overlap with V4L here.
> >
> > These come from the USB audio spec. Video devices are indeed likely to
> > be more detailed than just a single audio source. :)
>
> Does EXT_BROADCAST represent the TV tuner (or satellite receiver, cable tuner,
> radio tuner, ...) itself, or the connection between the tuner and the rest of
> the device ? Most TV tuner are currently handled by V4L2 and would thus turn
> up as V4L2 subdevs (I'm not sure if that's what we want in the long term, but
> it's at least the current situation).
>From the point of view of an audio device, this would be just some audio
source, much like a connector. We don't need this if there is some
better V4L entitity that the USB audio entity can be mapped to.
Regards,
Clemens
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-14 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-25 2:28 [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 01/12] media: Media device node support Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 02/12] media: Media device Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 9:33 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 14:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 9:38 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 9:38 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-25 13:41 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 13:41 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:29 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:35 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:21 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Mark Brown
2010-11-26 9:10 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-11-26 9:10 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-13 16:10 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-13 16:10 ` [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 12:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 12:40 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 12:53 ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 13:49 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 13:49 ` [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 23:50 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 23:50 ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-21 16:49 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 13:31 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 13:31 ` [alsa-devel] " Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 13:54 ` Takashi Iwai
2010-12-14 13:54 ` [alsa-devel] " Takashi Iwai
2010-12-14 14:25 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 14:25 ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 15:30 ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2010-12-14 15:30 ` Clemens Ladisch
2010-12-14 23:30 ` Raymond Yau
2010-12-14 14:51 ` [alsa-devel] " Hans Verkuil
2010-12-14 14:57 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 14:57 ` [alsa-devel] " Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-14 14:49 ` Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 13:36 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 15:49 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:13 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-26 14:14 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:34 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 15:57 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 04/12] media: Entity graph traversal Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 05/12] media: Reference count and power handling Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:49 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:43 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 17:49 ` Sakari Ailus
2010-11-25 21:47 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-28 12:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-28 18:25 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 06/12] media: Media device information query Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 07/12] media: Entities, pads and links enumeration Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 08/12] media: Links setup Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 09/12] media: Entity locking and pipeline management Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 13:53 ` Mark Brown
2010-11-25 15:47 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 10/12] v4l: Add a media_device pointer to the v4l2_device structure Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 11/12] v4l: Make video_device inherit from media_entity Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 11:38 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-11-25 14:37 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 2:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 12/12] v4l: Make v4l2_subdev " Laurent Pinchart
2010-11-25 14:28 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 00/12] Media controller (core and V4L2) Mark Brown
2010-11-26 14:07 ` Laurent Pinchart
[not found] ` <201012031119.36771.laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
[not found] ` <201012031306.18520.hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
2010-12-03 13:50 ` [RFC/PATCH v6 03/12] media: Entities, pads and links Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-03 14:54 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 17:13 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 17:55 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-07 18:11 ` Hans Verkuil
2010-12-07 19:03 ` Mark Brown
2010-12-09 12:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2010-12-10 16:35 ` Sakari Ailus
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