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From: Hollis Blanchard <hollis_blanchard@mentor.com>
To: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: re-writing on powerpc
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 17:53:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D07AF2D.2090703@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FD1A71B048BD854792EE753E0E9F27DE80A7@az33exm20>

On 12/14/2010 12:48 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/13/2010 07:17 PM, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
>>> Rewriting is dangerous if the guest is unaware of it.  As soon as it 
>>> is made aware of it, it might as well actually do it in the best way 
>>> that suits it.
>>
>> Can you list some examples of dangerous scenarios?
>>
Perhaps I should rephrase... any real-world dangerous scenarios? :) I 
was hoping you could share some traps you've hit with Linux or Windows 
on x86.
> - guest checksums own kernel pages
For runtime intrusion detection? Such guests can simply not ask the 
hypervisor to enable the rewriting feature.
> - clever compiler reuses code for constant pool
Not sure what you mean here. Anyways I think clever compilers are 
irrelevant, since a compiler will not ordinarily emit a supervisor-mode 
instruction. The hypervisor has no need to patch normal user-mode 
instructions.
> - guest patches itself (a la linux alternatives), surprised when it 
> sees a different instruction
PowerPC Linux does patch itself, which is a write-only operation.
> - guest jits own kernel code (like Singularity), gets confused when it 
> reads back something it didn't write
This is getting really hypothetical, but why would a JIT need to read 
the generated code?

Hollis Blanchard
Mentor Graphics, Embedded Systems Division



  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13  4:45 re-writing on powerpc Yoder Stuart-B08248
2010-12-13  8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13  8:42 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-13  8:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:12 ` Hollis Blanchard
2010-12-13 17:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:17 ` Hollis Blanchard
2010-12-13 19:03 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-13 23:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14  0:18 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14  0:24 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14  8:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14  8:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14  8:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14  9:08 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 15:45 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2010-12-14 15:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 16:55 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 17:48 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 17:53 ` Hollis Blanchard [this message]
2010-12-14 18:37 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 18:41 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 20:04 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 23:00 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 23:17 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 23:29 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-15  0:00 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-15  0:13 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-15  0:57 ` Andreas Färber
2010-12-15  9:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-15 11:16 ` Sethi Varun-B16395
2010-12-15 11:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-15 11:32 ` Sethi Varun-B16395
2010-12-15 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-17 21:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-12-17 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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