From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: re-writing on powerpc
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 11:18:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D08A40E.6020909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FD1A71B048BD854792EE753E0E9F27DE80A7@az33exm20>
On 12/15/2010 01:16 PM, Sethi Varun-B16395 wrote:
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-ppc-
> > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Avi Kivity
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:18 PM
> > To: Yoder Stuart-B08248
> > Cc: Hollis Blanchard; Alexander Graf; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: re-writing on powerpc
> >
> > On 12/14/2010 05:45 PM, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Avi Kivity [mailto:avi@redhat.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 2:49 AM
> > > > To: Hollis Blanchard
> > > > Cc: Yoder Stuart-B08248; Alexander Graf; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Subject: Re: re-writing on powerpc
> > > >
> > > > On 12/13/2010 07:17 PM, Hollis Blanchard wrote:
> > > > >> Rewriting is dangerous if the guest is unaware of it. As soon
> > > > as
> > > it
> > > > >> is made aware of it, it might as well actually do it in the
> > > > best
> > > way
> > > > >> that suits it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Can you list some examples of dangerous scenarios?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > - guest checksums own kernel pages
> > > > - clever compiler reuses code for constant pool
> > > > - guest patches itself (a la linux alternatives), surprised when it
> > > sees a
> > > > different instruction
> > > > - guest jits own kernel code (like Singularity), gets confused when
> > > > it reads back something it didn't write
> > >
> > > One possible solution to hiding rewriting from guest if it must be
> > > hidden is to mark patched pages as execute only. If a guest reads a
> > > patched page, the hypervisor can fix up the read.
> > >
> >
> > Yes. Something that is common to all the problems above is "using code
> > as data".
> >
> > However, execute only would only affect the page's mapping, not the page
> > itself, yes? So if the page has another mapping, this doesn't work.
> >
>
> But KVM would be aware of guest page mappings, so access permissions for any particular mapping
> can be controlled by KVM.
kvm isn't aware of all guest mappings (only those that were instantiated
in shadow tlb/pagetables).
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-15 11:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-13 4:45 re-writing on powerpc Yoder Stuart-B08248
2010-12-13 8:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 8:42 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-13 8:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:12 ` Hollis Blanchard
2010-12-13 17:15 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-13 17:17 ` Hollis Blanchard
2010-12-13 19:03 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-13 23:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 0:18 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 0:24 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 8:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 8:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 8:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 9:08 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 15:45 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2010-12-14 15:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-14 16:55 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 17:48 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 17:53 ` Hollis Blanchard
2010-12-14 18:37 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 18:41 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 20:04 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 23:00 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-14 23:17 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-14 23:29 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-15 0:00 ` Scott Wood
2010-12-15 0:13 ` Alexander Graf
2010-12-15 0:57 ` Andreas Färber
2010-12-15 9:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-15 11:16 ` Sethi Varun-B16395
2010-12-15 11:18 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-12-15 11:32 ` Sethi Varun-B16395
2010-12-15 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-12-17 21:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-12-17 22:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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