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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	Thomas Graf <tgraf@redhat.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@diku.dk>,
	Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
	Netfilter
Subject: Re: Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:00:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D0B34D4.9020208@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101216141923.GB23297@canuck.infradead.org>

On 16/12/10 15:19, Thomas Graf wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 02:51:07PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>>> Why not use nlattr to encode the error string? It would make error
>>> messages easier to extend in the future. At some point we might want
>>> to add an offset field which points into the original netlink
>>> message describing the attribute which caused the failure.
>>
>> Is that a yes or a no?
> 
> The proposed solution at netconf involved appending the error string
> directly. Inspired by your comment I realizezd that encoding the
> error string as nlattr allow for additional attributes would be a
> better implementation.

Indeed, I'd prefer adding an extra netlink header with a new type like
NLM_ERROR2 followed by attributes like the string (or an int) that
contain the error.

This also can be added with breaking existing apps and libraries IIRC.

> As for size limitations, even though most netlink protocols do it, I
> don't see the point in appending the whole request message in a error
> message. The header would be completely sufficient for all request/reply
> based protocols. It is no problem for userspace to keep a copy of the
> last request sent.

At least, we require the netlink header of the request message in error
messages. This is useful for message batches that are sent to
kernel-space, to know which one triggered the error.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-17 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-24 22:29 Xtables2 Netlink spec Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 11:42 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 13:35   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 14:21     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 21:46       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26  8:25         ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 13:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 19:48             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 19:55               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 20:05                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 21:33                   ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011270951330.20431@blackhole.kfki.hu>
2010-11-27 13:39                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 17:04                         ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-27 17:35                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 20:42                             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:30                               ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:39                                 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:55                                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 13:26                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-29 13:49                                   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:23                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-27 11:10             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 15:27           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 12:25             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-03 21:03           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-07  7:49             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-07 13:30               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-08 11:36                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 19:01 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-09 12:08   ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-14  2:01     ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-14  2:16       ` James Nurmi
2010-12-14  3:46         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15 13:54       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:05         ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 14:22           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  7:25             ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17  9:35               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17  9:50                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17  9:55           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17 14:56             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15  4:55   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15  8:51     ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16  9:57       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2010-12-16 12:51         ` Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec) Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 13:43           ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 13:51             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 14:19               ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17 10:00                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2010-12-17 10:00                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:47             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16 15:09               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 23:31             ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17  6:58               ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 23:23           ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17 10:02             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso

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