From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@diku.dk>,
Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec@blackhole.kfki.hu>,
Netfilter Developer Mailing List
<netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
netfilter@vger.kernel.org, tgraf@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec)
Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 11:02:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D0B3541.2090501@netfilter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D0A9F54.8080602@trash.net>
On 17/12/10 00:23, Patrick McHardy wrote:
> Am 16.12.2010 13:51, schrieb Jan Engelhardt:
>> On Thursday 2010-12-16 10:57, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
>>
>>> Cc.ed Thomas Graf (tgraf@redhat.com), Thomas presented some interesting
>>> ideas on netlink error-codes and strings during NetConf 2010, see:
>>>
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2010.html
>>> http://vger.kernel.org/netconf2010_slides/tgraf_netconf10.odp
>>
>> The idea is appending an error string is ok for Netlink as a protocol
>> (specification-wise), but the size constraints of the skbuffs in the
>> Linux may make its practical implementation a little harder. "Half of
>> the packet" is already used for the original request message, and
>> cramming an extra error string may bust the space.
>> It also does not look very netlinky to not use nlattrs ;-)
>
> I agree, error strings don't look like a viable solution to me,
> they are basically impossible to interpret by an application,
> you run into localization issues and so on.
>
> I'd suggest to return an errno value and the attribute causing
> the error, possibly also the value (we append the original message
> anyways, but in case of lists it might be hard to locate the specific
> attribute). The harder cases are when a combination of multiple
> attributes are responsible for the error, but still, the application
> has to understand the kernel interpretation anyways, so I'd simply
> return the errno and all attributes responsible. Leave interpretation
> up to userspace.
I'd also prefer an int. We can define the meaning of the error numbers
in the protocol header file.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-17 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-24 22:29 Xtables2 Netlink spec Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 11:42 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 13:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-25 14:21 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-25 21:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 8:25 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 13:59 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 19:48 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 19:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-26 20:05 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-26 21:33 ` Jan Engelhardt
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1011270951330.20431@blackhole.kfki.hu>
2010-11-27 13:39 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 17:04 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-27 17:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 20:42 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:30 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:39 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-11-29 12:55 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 13:26 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-29 13:49 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-29 12:23 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-27 11:10 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 15:27 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-11-27 12:25 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-03 21:03 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-07 7:49 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-07 13:30 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-08 11:36 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-11-26 19:01 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-09 12:08 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-14 2:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-14 2:16 ` James Nurmi
2010-12-14 3:46 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15 13:54 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:05 ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 14:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17 7:25 ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17 9:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-17 9:50 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17 9:55 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17 14:56 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15 4:55 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-15 8:51 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16 9:57 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2010-12-16 12:51 ` Error reporting in Netlink (Re: Xtables2 Netlink spec) Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 13:43 ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 13:51 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 14:19 ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-17 10:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-17 10:00 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2010-12-16 14:47 ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2010-12-16 15:09 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-12-16 23:31 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17 6:58 ` Thomas Graf
2010-12-16 23:23 ` Patrick McHardy
2010-12-17 10:02 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
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