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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 09:10:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D51087C.7060108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F6FE96B71CF29479FF1CDC8046E15030C15B0@039-SN1MPN1-002.039d.mgd.msft.net>

On 02/07/2011 07:30 PM, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org]
> >  On Behalf Of Avi Kivity
> >  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:14 AM
> >  To: Alexander Graf
> >  Cc: Wood Scott-B07421; Yoder Stuart-B08248; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org;
> >  kvm@vger.kernel.org; qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >  Subject: Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
> >
> >  On 02/03/2011 11:19 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  >   I have no idea what things will look like 10 years down the road,
> >  >  >  but  currently e500mc has 576 entries (512 TLB0, 64 TLB1).
> >  >
> >  >  That sums up to 64 * 576 bytes, which is 36kb. Ouch. Certainly nothing we
> >  want to transfer every time qemu feels like resolving an EA.
> >
> >  You could have an ioctl to translate addresses (x86 had KVM_TRANSLATE or
> >  similar), or have the TLB stored in user memory, so there is no need to
> >  transfer it (on the other hand, you have to re-validate it every time you
> >  peek at it).
>
> The most convenient and flexible thing for  Power Book III-E I think
> will be something that operates like a TLB search instruction.  Inputs
> are 'address space' and 'process id' and outputs are in which TLB the
> entry was found and all the components of a TLB entry:
>     address space
>     pid
>     entry number
>     ea
>     rpn
>     guest state
>     permissions flags
>     attributes (WIMGE)
>
> Since all of those fields are architected in MAS registers, in the previous
> proposal we just proposed to return several 32-bit fields (one per MAS)
> that use the architected layout instead of inventing a brand new
> structure defining these fields.
>

This looks reasonable assuming you can take the hit of a system call per 
translation.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>
Cc: Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:10:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D51087C.7060108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F6FE96B71CF29479FF1CDC8046E15030C15B0@039-SN1MPN1-002.039d.mgd.msft.net>

On 02/07/2011 07:30 PM, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org]
> >  On Behalf Of Avi Kivity
> >  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:14 AM
> >  To: Alexander Graf
> >  Cc: Wood Scott-B07421; Yoder Stuart-B08248; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org;
> >  kvm@vger.kernel.org; qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >  Subject: Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
> >
> >  On 02/03/2011 11:19 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  >   I have no idea what things will look like 10 years down the road,
> >  >  >  but  currently e500mc has 576 entries (512 TLB0, 64 TLB1).
> >  >
> >  >  That sums up to 64 * 576 bytes, which is 36kb. Ouch. Certainly nothing we
> >  want to transfer every time qemu feels like resolving an EA.
> >
> >  You could have an ioctl to translate addresses (x86 had KVM_TRANSLATE or
> >  similar), or have the TLB stored in user memory, so there is no need to
> >  transfer it (on the other hand, you have to re-validate it every time you
> >  peek at it).
>
> The most convenient and flexible thing for  Power Book III-E I think
> will be something that operates like a TLB search instruction.  Inputs
> are 'address space' and 'process id' and outputs are in which TLB the
> entry was found and all the components of a TLB entry:
>     address space
>     pid
>     entry number
>     ea
>     rpn
>     guest state
>     permissions flags
>     attributes (WIMGE)
>
> Since all of those fields are architected in MAS registers, in the previous
> proposal we just proposed to return several 32-bit fields (one per MAS)
> that use the architected layout instead of inventing a brand new
> structure defining these fields.
>

This looks reasonable assuming you can take the hit of a system call per 
translation.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Yoder Stuart-B08248 <B08248@freescale.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	"kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org" <kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:10:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D51087C.7060108@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9F6FE96B71CF29479FF1CDC8046E15030C15B0@039-SN1MPN1-002.039d.mgd.msft.net>

On 02/07/2011 07:30 PM, Yoder Stuart-B08248 wrote:
>
> >  -----Original Message-----
> >  From: kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-ppc-owner@vger.kernel.org]
> >  On Behalf Of Avi Kivity
> >  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:14 AM
> >  To: Alexander Graf
> >  Cc: Wood Scott-B07421; Yoder Stuart-B08248; kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org;
> >  kvm@vger.kernel.org; qemu-devel@nongnu.org
> >  Subject: Re: RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access
> >
> >  On 02/03/2011 11:19 AM, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >  >  >
> >  >  >   I have no idea what things will look like 10 years down the road,
> >  >  >  but  currently e500mc has 576 entries (512 TLB0, 64 TLB1).
> >  >
> >  >  That sums up to 64 * 576 bytes, which is 36kb. Ouch. Certainly nothing we
> >  want to transfer every time qemu feels like resolving an EA.
> >
> >  You could have an ioctl to translate addresses (x86 had KVM_TRANSLATE or
> >  similar), or have the TLB stored in user memory, so there is no need to
> >  transfer it (on the other hand, you have to re-validate it every time you
> >  peek at it).
>
> The most convenient and flexible thing for  Power Book III-E I think
> will be something that operates like a TLB search instruction.  Inputs
> are 'address space' and 'process id' and outputs are in which TLB the
> entry was found and all the components of a TLB entry:
>     address space
>     pid
>     entry number
>     ea
>     rpn
>     guest state
>     permissions flags
>     attributes (WIMGE)
>
> Since all of those fields are architected in MAS registers, in the previous
> proposal we just proposed to return several 32-bit fields (one per MAS)
> that use the architected layout instead of inventing a brand new
> structure defining these fields.
>

This looks reasonable assuming you can take the hit of a system call per 
translation.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 112+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-02 20:33 RFC: New API for PPC for vcpu mmu access Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-02 20:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-02 20:33 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-02 21:33 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-02 21:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-02 21:33   ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-02 22:08   ` Scott Wood
2011-02-02 22:08     ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-02 22:08     ` Scott Wood
2011-02-03  9:19     ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-03  9:19       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-03  9:19       ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-04 22:33       ` Scott Wood
2011-02-04 22:33         ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-04 22:33         ` Scott Wood
2011-02-07 15:43         ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 15:43           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 15:43           ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 16:40           ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 16:40             ` [Qemu-devel] " Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 16:40             ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 16:49             ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 16:49               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 16:49               ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 18:52               ` Scott Wood
2011-02-07 18:52                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-07 18:52                 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-07 19:56                 ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 19:56                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 19:56                   ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-09 17:03                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-09 17:03                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-09 17:03                     ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 20:15           ` Scott Wood
2011-02-07 20:15             ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-07 20:15             ` Scott Wood
2011-02-09 17:21             ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-09 17:21               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-09 17:21               ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-09 23:09               ` Scott Wood
2011-02-09 23:09                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-09 23:09                 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 11:45                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 11:45                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 11:45                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 18:51                   ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 18:51                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-10 18:51                     ` Scott Wood
2011-02-11  0:20                     ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  0:20                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  0:20                       ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  0:22                       ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  0:22                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  0:22                         ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  1:41                         ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  1:41                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-11  1:41                           ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11 20:53                           ` Scott Wood
2011-02-11 20:53                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-11 20:53                             ` Scott Wood
2011-02-11 21:07                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-11 21:07                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-11 21:07                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-12  0:57                               ` Scott Wood
2011-02-12  0:57                                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-12  0:57                                 ` Scott Wood
2011-02-13 22:43                                 ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 22:43                                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-13 22:43                                   ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 17:11                                   ` Scott Wood
2011-02-14 17:11                                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-14 17:11                                     ` Scott Wood
2011-02-14 20:19                                     ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 20:19                                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 20:19                                       ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 21:16                                       ` Scott Wood
2011-02-14 21:16                                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-14 21:16                                         ` Scott Wood
2011-02-14 23:39                                         ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 23:39                                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 23:39                                           ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-14 23:49                                           ` Scott Wood
2011-02-14 23:49                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-14 23:49                                             ` Scott Wood
2011-02-15  0:00                                             ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-15  0:00                                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-15  0:00                                               ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-07 17:13       ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 17:13         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 17:13         ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-07 17:30         ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 17:30           ` [Qemu-devel] " Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-07 17:30           ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-08  9:10           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-02-08  9:10             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-02-08  9:10             ` Avi Kivity
2011-02-10  0:04       ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10  0:04         ` [Qemu-devel] " Scott Wood
2011-02-10  0:04         ` Scott Wood
2011-02-10 11:55         ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 11:55           ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 11:55           ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-10 12:31           ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-02-10 12:31             ` [Qemu-devel] " Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-02-10 12:31             ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2011-02-02 22:34   ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-02 22:34     ` [Qemu-devel] " Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-02 22:34     ` Yoder Stuart-B08248
2011-02-03  9:29     ` Alexander Graf
2011-02-03  9:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-02-03  9:29       ` Alexander Graf
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-02-02 20:30 Yoder Stuart-B08248

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