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From: Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	markus_mueller@de.ibm.com, marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	ryanh@us.ibm.com, abeekhof@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:22:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5C07CB.4040709@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D5BF581.3050803@redhat.com>

On 02/16/2011 10:04 AM, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> On 01/17/11 14:14, Michael Roth wrote:
>> These patches apply to master (1-14-2011), and can also be obtained from:
>> git://repo.or.cz/qemu/mdroth.git virtagent_v6
>>
>> CHANGES IN V6:
>>
>>   - Added a sentinel value to reliably detect the start of an "http" hdr. Used to skip past partially sent http content from previous "sessions"
>>   - Added http hdr tag (currently hardcoded for testing, will switch to uuid) to filter out valid-but-unexpected content in channel from previous "sessions"
>>   - Added timeout mechanism to avoid hanging monitor when agent isn't running
>>   - Added timed back-off on read's from a virtio-serial that result in ret=0 to avoid spinning if host isn't connected.
>>   - Added daemonize flags to qemu-va
>>   - Added sane defaults for channel type and virtio-serial port path
>>   - Various bug fixes for state machine/job handling logic
>>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I was running some testing here of virtagent and demoing it to some of
> my colleagues and ran into a problem that raised an interesting question.
>
> My test system was an older Fedora 11 system, which meant I had to
> rebuild qemu, while I kept my test image and the qemu-va binary that I
> had built on a Fedora 14 system.
>
> What happened was that either due to the differences in platform, or
> maybe due to lag in updating the windows over vnc, agent commands would
> end up crashing qemu on the host. I am not sure whether this was due to
> timeouts or incompatibility of the libraries, however the question
> raised is whether it is good security wise to pull XMLRPC processing
> into QEMU this way? Instead maybe it would be better to move it out into
> it's own process that uses virtio-serial through QEMU for it's
> communication?
>
> In addition I think we need to consider a mechanism to make sure that
> the host and guest side are really compatible.
>
> Just a few things to consider.
>
> Cheers,
> Jes

Resending due to mail delivery failure:

Hi Jes,

We've seen similar behavior. I think it comes down to qemu-va being 
linked against shared objects in the host that don't necessarily 
coincide with what's in the guest. It's somewhat misleading that we 
currently build qemu-va along with the binary, since qemu-va is not 
meant to be used on the host, and the version built on the host is not 
meant to be used in the guest.

Really the guest binary, qemu-va, should be built in a proper build 
environment for that particular guest. Long term it may make sense to 
have a "guest-utils" target that isn't part of the normal host-build 
process to reflect binaries with these kinds of requirements. For now I 
think we'll may just end up removing qemu-va from the default make 
target, and only build it explicitly with "make qemu-va".

Thanks,

Mike

P.S. Hoping to have the execute-RPCs-in-seperate-threads work done soon 
so we can get back to integrating your patches.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-16 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 13:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 01/23] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:56   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 02/23] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 03/23] Make qemu timers available for tools Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:26     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24  7:56       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 04/23] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 05/23] virtagent: transport definitions read/send callback functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 06/23] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 07/23] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:55     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:16       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-24 16:51         ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 17:04           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 08/23] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:20     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 18:23       ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 22:08         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:20           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-24 22:48               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 23:40                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  0:22                   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-25  0:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  9:21                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-25 15:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 15:43                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-26 13:01                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 09/23] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 10/23] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 11/23] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 12/23] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 13/23] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 14/23] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 15/23] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 16/23] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 17/23] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 18/23] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 19/23] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 20/23] virtagent: add va.capabilities RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 21/23] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 22/23] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 23/23] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 14:53   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-18 14:02     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-18 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-31 14:41         ` Michael Roth
2011-02-01 22:18           ` Michael Roth
2011-02-14  9:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-16 16:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-16 17:22   ` Michael Roth [this message]
2011-02-17  8:26     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-17  9:08       ` Dor Laor
2011-02-17 14:39       ` Michael Roth
2011-02-18 12:45         ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 14:30             ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21  8:32                 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-21 13:36                   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-21 13:38                     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 15:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-18 15:25               ` Anthony Liguori

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