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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>
Cc: agl@linux.vnet.ibm.com, stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	markus_mueller@de.ibm.com, marcel.mittelstaedt@de.ibm.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	aliguori@linux.vnet.ibm.com, ryanh@us.ibm.com,
	abeekhof@redhat.com, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:08:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5CE57E.4040508@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D5CDBD0.2060900@redhat.com>

On 02/17/2011 10:26 AM, Jes Sorensen wrote:
> On 02/16/11 18:22, Michael Roth wrote:
>> We've seen similar behavior. I think it comes down to qemu-va being
>> linked against shared objects in the host that don't necessarily
>> coincide with what's in the guest. It's somewhat misleading that we
>> currently build qemu-va along with the binary, since qemu-va is not
>> meant to be used on the host, and the version built on the host is not
>> meant to be used in the guest.
>>
>> Really the guest binary, qemu-va, should be built in a proper build
>> environment for that particular guest. Long term it may make sense to
>> have a "guest-utils" target that isn't part of the normal host-build
>> process to reflect binaries with these kinds of requirements. For now I
>> think we'll may just end up removing qemu-va from the default make
>> target, and only build it explicitly with "make qemu-va".
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> I am not sure I was totally clear in my mail, but the crashes I saw were
> QEMU on the host that went down. Not qemu-va running in the guest. My
> worry is that we are adding a lot of complexity into QEMU on the host
> side which is going to be difficult to audit, especially with things
> like the HTML and XML processing. If we separated host side processing
> into a separate command, we could better protect ourselves against a
> situation where a rogue guest could kill QEMU and possibly exploit it on
> the host side. I think we should seriously look at moving the agent
> processing code out of main QEMU and into a standalone command, maybe
> qemu-va-host or something like that.

+1
Qemu will fork this qemu-va-host process so it won't be an extra burden 
on the management, qemu and his son should talk over pipe, passing the 
qmp commands to it.

>
> There has been talk about doing the same thing with the monitor in the
> past, and have it talk to the main QEMU process over QMP. This pretty
> much goes along the same lines, except that I think we need the XML
> handling moved out with it, so we couldn't just layer it directly on top
> of QMP.
>
>> P.S. Hoping to have the execute-RPCs-in-seperate-threads work done soon
>> so we can get back to integrating your patches.
>
> Sounds good!
>
> Cheers,
> Jes
>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-17  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-17 13:14 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 01/23] Move code related to fd handlers into utility functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:56   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 02/23] Add qemu_set_fd_handler() wrappers to qemu-tools.c Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 03/23] Make qemu timers available for tools Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:26     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24  7:56       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 04/23] virtagent: common code for managing client/server rpc jobs Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 05/23] virtagent: transport definitions read/send callback functions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 06/23] virtagent: base client definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 07/23] virtagent: base server definitions Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:55     ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:16       ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-24 16:51         ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 17:04           ` Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 08/23] virtagent: add va.getfile RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-21 17:20     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2011-01-21 18:23       ` Michael Roth
2011-01-24 22:08         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:20           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 22:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-24 22:48               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-24 23:40                 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  0:22                   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-25  0:25                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25  9:21                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-25 15:12                     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-25 15:43                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-26 13:01                         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 09/23] virtagent: add agent_viewfile qmp/hmp command Michael Roth
2011-01-21 16:41   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 10/23] virtagent: add va.getdmesg RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 11/23] virtagent: add agent_viewdmesg qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 12/23] virtagent: add va.shutdown RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 13/23] virtagent: add agent_shutdown qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 14/23] virtagent: add va.ping RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 15/23] virtagent: add agent_ping qmp/hmp commands Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 16/23] virtagent: add agent_capabilities " Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 17/23] virtagent: add client capabilities init function Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 18/23] virtagent: add va.hello RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 19/23] virtagent: add "hello" notification function for guest agent Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 20/23] virtagent: add va.capabilities RPC Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 21/23] virtagent: add virtagent guest daemon Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 22/23] virtagent: integrate virtagent server/client via chardev Michael Roth
2011-01-17 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 23/23] virtagent: various bits to build QEMU with virtagent Michael Roth
2011-01-24 10:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jes Sorensen
2011-01-17 13:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH v6 00/23] virtagent: host/guest RPC communication agent Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-17 14:53   ` Michael Roth
2011-01-18 14:02     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-01-18 14:13       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-01-31 14:41         ` Michael Roth
2011-02-01 22:18           ` Michael Roth
2011-02-14  9:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-16 16:04 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-16 17:22   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-17  8:26     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-17  9:08       ` Dor Laor [this message]
2011-02-17 14:39       ` Michael Roth
2011-02-18 12:45         ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:07           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-18 14:30             ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 14:57               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-02-21  8:32                 ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-21 13:36                   ` Michael Roth
2011-02-21 13:38                     ` Jes Sorensen
2011-02-18 15:22             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2011-02-18 15:25               ` Anthony Liguori

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