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From: Tianji Li <Tianji.Li@nuim.ie>
To: rick.jones2@hp.com
Cc: "Dave Täht" <d@taht.net>,
	sedat.dilek@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:45:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6FEFD4.9010608@nuim.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy>



On 03/03/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Jones wrote:
>> For wireless routers and cable home gateways especially, this research
>> shows that the total un-managed buffers in your system should be less
>> than 32.
>
> Would it be a good thing to start describing these queues not so much in
> terms of packets but in terms of delay (or bandwidth X delay)?
>

The unit of bandwidth is something like Mbps, that of delay can be 
second, so bandwidth X delay --> Mb, which is the unit of packet size. 
So both packets and delay should have the same effect for sizing buffers.

Tianji



> Constants tend to live longer than they should, no matter how noble in
> birth.
>
> rick jones
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat-devel mailing list
> Bloat-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat-devel
>

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From: Tianji Li <Tianji.Li-4eIRXPAgDeg@public.gmane.org>
To: rick.jones2-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org
Cc: "Dave Täht" <d@taht.net>,
	sedat.dilek-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-wireless-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	bloat-devel-JXvr2/1DY2fm6VMwtOF2vx4hnT+Y9+D1@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 13:45:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6FEFD4.9010608@nuim.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1299176168.2157.14.camel@tardy>



On 03/03/2011 12:16 PM, Rick Jones wrote:
>> For wireless routers and cable home gateways especially, this research
>> shows that the total un-managed buffers in your system should be less
>> than 32.
>
> Would it be a good thing to start describing these queues not so much in
> terms of packets but in terms of delay (or bandwidth X delay)?
>

The unit of bandwidth is something like Mbps, that of delay can be 
second, so bandwidth X delay --> Mb, which is the unit of packet size. 
So both packets and delay should have the same effect for sizing buffers.

Tianji



> Constants tend to live longer than they should, no matter how noble in
> birth.
>
> rick jones
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat-devel mailing list
> Bloat-devel-JXvr2/1DY2fm6VMwtOF2vx4hnT+Y9+D1@public.gmane.org
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat-devel
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-03 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-25 22:22 ANNOUNCE: debloat-testing kernel git tree John W. Linville
2011-02-27 15:23 ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 15:23   ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 15:31   ` Dave Täht
2011-02-27 15:31     ` Dave Täht
2011-02-27 15:38     ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 15:56       ` Dave Täht
2011-02-27 16:01         ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 16:01           ` Sedat Dilek
2011-02-27 16:25           ` Dave Täht
2011-02-27 16:25             ` Dave Täht
2011-03-03 18:16             ` Rick Jones
2011-03-03 18:19               ` John W. Linville
2011-03-03 19:45               ` Tianji Li [this message]
2011-03-03 19:45                 ` Tianji Li
2011-03-03 22:33                 ` Rick Jones
2011-03-08  6:58                 ` Pavel Machek
2011-03-08 18:48                   ` Rick Jones
2011-03-08 18:48                     ` Rick Jones
2011-03-13 10:27                     ` Pavel Machek

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