Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Robert Berger]

Hi,

Can someone please tell me if there is a tag in
git://git.pokylinux.org/poky.git which corresponds to the official
release tarball and what it is?

What puzzles me is that if you check out bernard-5.0 from the git
repository it does not correspond to
http://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/poky/poky-bernard-5.0.tar.bz2

OK, it does not seem to be anything seriously different between the two:

#       modified:   README.hardware
#       modified:   documentation/adt-manual/adt-prepare.xml
#       modified:   documentation/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.xml
#       modified:   meta/conf/distro/poky.conf

... but you might want to synchronize since some people prefer to work
from git and others from the tarball.

As an example the README.hardware found in the tarball suggests to build
and update u-boot for the Freescale MPC8315E-RDB, which does not exist
in the git repo.

Regards,

Robert

Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Scott Garman]

On 04/09/2011 05:04 AM, Robert Berger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can someone please tell me if there is a tag in
> git://git.pokylinux.org/poky.git which corresponds to the official
> release tarball and what it is?
>
> What puzzles me is that if you check out bernard-5.0 from the git
> repository it does not correspond to
> http://www.yoctoproject.org/downloads/poky/poky-bernard-5.0.tar.bz2
>
> OK, it does not seem to be anything seriously different between the two:
>
> #       modified:   README.hardware
> #       modified:   documentation/adt-manual/adt-prepare.xml
> #       modified:   documentation/yocto-project-qs/yocto-project-qs.xml
> #       modified:   meta/conf/distro/poky.conf
>
> ... but you might want to synchronize since some people prefer to work
> from git and others from the tarball.
>
> As an example the README.hardware found in the tarball suggests to build
> and update u-boot for the Freescale MPC8315E-RDB, which does not exist
> in the git repo.

This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The 
tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds 
like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.

Note: if you use git fetch --all, that will fetch new tags but doesn't 
update old ones that have moved - you need to explicitly run git fetch 
--tags.

HTH,

Scott

-- 
Scott Garman
Embedded Linux Engineer - Yocto Project
Intel Open Source Technology Center

Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Robert Berger]

Hi Scott,

> 
> This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The
> tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds
> like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.
> 
> Note: if you use git fetch --all, that will fetch new tags but doesn't
> update old ones that have moved - you need to explicitly run git fetch
> --tags.

Thanks, you are absolutely right:

git pull

is not enough;)

git fetch --tags
From git://git.pokylinux.org/poky
 - [tag update]      bernard-5.0 -> bernard-5.0

> 
> HTH,
> 
> Scott
> 

Regards,

Robert
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fight its enemies is lunch." - Michael Friedman

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Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Scott Garman,

In message <4DA127F6.3010006@intel.com> you wrote:
>
> This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The 
> tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds 
> like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.

You are ...  moving release tags?  Grrrgh!!!

Could you please stop doing this?  Nobody ever expects such a thing.
And while we are at it:  It would also be great if you could
GPG-sign the tags.

Thanks.

Wolfgang Denk

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DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de
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Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Darren Hart]

On 04/10/2011 01:24 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Scott Garman,
> 
> In message <4DA127F6.3010006@intel.com> you wrote:
>>
>> This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The 
>> tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds 
>> like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.
> 
> You are ...  moving release tags?  Grrrgh!!!

Oh, that surprises me as well. What is the justification here? Generally
speaking, I'd expect the tags to be static.

--
Darren

> 
> Could you please stop doing this?  Nobody ever expects such a thing.
> And while we are at it:  It would also be great if you could
> GPG-sign the tags.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Wolfgang Denk
> 


-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel

Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Scott Garman]

On 04/18/2011 10:22 AM, Hart, Darren wrote:
> On 04/10/2011 01:24 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
>> Dear Scott Garman,
>>
>> In message<4DA127F6.3010006@intel.com>  you wrote:
>>>
>>> This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The
>>> tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds
>>> like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.
>>
>> You are ...  moving release tags?  Grrrgh!!!
>
> Oh, that surprises me as well. What is the justification here? Generally
> speaking, I'd expect the tags to be static.

I'm cc'ing Beth on this thread, since I was not involved in the tag move.

Scott

-- 
Scott Garman
Embedded Linux Engineer - Yocto Project
Intel Open Source Technology Center

Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Elizabeth Flanagan]

On 04/10/2011 01:24 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Scott Garman,
>
> In message<4DA127F6.3010006@intel.com>  you wrote:
>>
>> This suggests to me that your local git repository isn't up to date. The
>> tag has been moved at least once since it was created, and it sounds
>> like your repository is behind the most recent move of the tag.
>
> You are ...  moving release tags?  Grrrgh!!!
>
> Could you please stop doing this?  Nobody ever expects such a thing.
> And while we are at it:  It would also be great if you could
> GPG-sign the tags.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>

Wolfgang,

Yes, there was a problem with what I assumed would be our bernard-5.0 release and the tag needed to be moved, which, 
while a messy practice, was the only available option at the time. The tag shouldn't have been created until after 
verification of the RC. I'll make sure that this is captured in our release process. If you want, please feel free to 
open up a bug in bugzilla and assign it to me. As this was a relatively new process, I knew we'd hit some snags. This 
was one of them, and I'll make sure this is captured in our process so that we don't hit it again.

Thanks for the feedback.

------------------
Elizabeth Flanagan
Yocto Project
Release Engineer

Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Wolfgang Denk]

Dear Elizabeth Flanagan,

In message <4DAC90D3.3050905@intel.com> you wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, there was a problem with what I assumed would be our bernard-5.0 release and the tag needed to be moved, which, 
> while a messy practice, was the only available option at the time. The tag shouldn't have been created until after 
> verification of the RC. I'll make sure that this is captured in our release process. If you want, please feel free to 
> open up a bug in bugzilla and assign it to me. As this was a relatively new process, I knew we'd hit some snags. This 
> was one of them, and I'll make sure this is captured in our process so that we don't hit it again.

I know that such things happen, but then it would have been at least a
good idea to post some information about this - as mentioned, nobody
expects that git tags get moved.


Do you also plan to GPG-sign the tags?

Note that annotated tags would also help a lot for example with
commands like "git describe".

Thanks.

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

-- 
DENX Software Engineering GmbH,     MD: Wolfgang Denk & Detlev Zundel
HRB 165235 Munich, Office: Kirchenstr.5, D-82194 Groebenzell, Germany
Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: wd@denx.de
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Re: Poky release is 5.0 "Bernard" confusion

[Elizabeth Flanagan]

On 04/19/2011 12:30 AM, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Dear Elizabeth Flanagan,
>
> In message<4DAC90D3.3050905@intel.com>  you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, there was a problem with what I assumed would be our bernard-5.0 release and the tag needed to be moved, which,
>> while a messy practice, was the only available option at the time. The tag shouldn't have been created until after
>> verification of the RC. I'll make sure that this is captured in our release process. If you want, please feel free to
>> open up a bug in bugzilla and assign it to me. As this was a relatively new process, I knew we'd hit some snags. This
>> was one of them, and I'll make sure this is captured in our process so that we don't hit it again.
>
> I know that such things happen, but then it would have been at least a
> good idea to post some information about this - as mentioned, nobody
> expects that git tags get moved.
>
>
> Do you also plan to GPG-sign the tags?

We certainly should be doing this. I have some automation of release process tasks coming up, and will make sure that 
that is part of it. I want to think about how this is going to be done, process wise, and implement an automated process 
that takes gpg signing and tag annotation into account, instead of doing it one way (manually) and switching midstream 
to an automated process that may be different. So, short answer, is yes, we should be doing that. Long answer is "Let's 
do it via the automated release process so we can ensure it's repeatable."

-b

------------------
Elizabeth Flanagan
Yocto Project
Release Engineer