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From: mkl@pengutronix.de (Marc Kleine-Budde)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver.
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:23:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA1973.4090309@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD9FCFC.10803@hartkopp.net>

On 05/23/2011 08:21 AM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:

[...]

> In 'real world' CAN setups you'll never see 21.000 CAN frames per second (and
> therefore 21.000 irqs/s) - you are usually designing CAN network traffic with
> less than 60% busload. So interrupt rates somewhere below 1000 irqs/s can be
> assumed.
> 
> From what i've seen so far a 3-4 messages rx FIFO and NAPI support just make it.
> 
> @Marc/Wolfgang: Would this be also your recommendation for a CAN controller
> design that supports SocketCAN in the best way?

If you have a rx FIFO NAPI is the way to go. For a single mailbox it
adds overhead, if you can read the CAN frame in the interrupt handler.
The error messages should probably generated from NAPI, too. Especially
the I'm-the-only-CAN-node-on-the-net-and-get-no-ACK error message.

However IIRC David said that every new driver should implement NAPI.

> As the Linux network stack supports hardware timestamps too, this could be an
> additional (optional!) feature.

regards, Marc
-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                  | Marc Kleine-Budde           |
Industrial Linux Solutions        | Phone: +49-231-2826-924     |
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From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
To: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Subhasish Ghosh <subhasish@mistralsolutions.com>,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>,
	sachi@mistralsolutions.com,
	davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com, nsekhar@ti.com,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	CAN NETWORK DRIVERS <socketcan-core@lists.berlios.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	m-watkins@ti.com, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver.
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:23:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA1973.4090309@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD9FCFC.10803@hartkopp.net>

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On 05/23/2011 08:21 AM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:

[...]

> In 'real world' CAN setups you'll never see 21.000 CAN frames per second (and
> therefore 21.000 irqs/s) - you are usually designing CAN network traffic with
> less than 60% busload. So interrupt rates somewhere below 1000 irqs/s can be
> assumed.
> 
> From what i've seen so far a 3-4 messages rx FIFO and NAPI support just make it.
> 
> @Marc/Wolfgang: Would this be also your recommendation for a CAN controller
> design that supports SocketCAN in the best way?

If you have a rx FIFO NAPI is the way to go. For a single mailbox it
adds overhead, if you can read the CAN frame in the interrupt handler.
The error messages should probably generated from NAPI, too. Especially
the I'm-the-only-CAN-node-on-the-net-and-get-no-ACK error message.

However IIRC David said that every new driver should implement NAPI.

> As the Linux network stack supports hardware timestamps too, this could be an
> additional (optional!) feature.

regards, Marc
-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                  | Marc Kleine-Budde           |
Industrial Linux Solutions        | Phone: +49-231-2826-924     |
Vertretung West/Dortmund          | Fax:   +49-5121-206917-5555 |
Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686  | http://www.pengutronix.de   |


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From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: sachi-EvXpCiN+lbve9wHmmfpqLFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org,
	davinci-linux-open-source-VycZQUHpC/PFrsHnngEfi1aTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Subhasish Ghosh
	<subhasish-EvXpCiN+lbve9wHmmfpqLFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>,
	nsekhar-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	open list <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	CAN NETWORK DRIVERS
	<socketcan-core-0fE9KPoRgkgATYTw5x5z8w@public.gmane.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	Netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	m-watkins-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org,
	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg-5Yr1BZd7O62+XT7JhA+gdA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver.
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 10:23:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DDA1973.4090309@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DD9FCFC.10803-fJ+pQTUTwRTk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>


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On 05/23/2011 08:21 AM, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:

[...]

> In 'real world' CAN setups you'll never see 21.000 CAN frames per second (and
> therefore 21.000 irqs/s) - you are usually designing CAN network traffic with
> less than 60% busload. So interrupt rates somewhere below 1000 irqs/s can be
> assumed.
> 
> From what i've seen so far a 3-4 messages rx FIFO and NAPI support just make it.
> 
> @Marc/Wolfgang: Would this be also your recommendation for a CAN controller
> design that supports SocketCAN in the best way?

If you have a rx FIFO NAPI is the way to go. For a single mailbox it
adds overhead, if you can read the CAN frame in the interrupt handler.
The error messages should probably generated from NAPI, too. Especially
the I'm-the-only-CAN-node-on-the-net-and-get-no-ACK error message.

However IIRC David said that every new driver should implement NAPI.

> As the Linux network stack supports hardware timestamps too, this could be an
> additional (optional!) feature.

regards, Marc
-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                  | Marc Kleine-Budde           |
Industrial Linux Solutions        | Phone: +49-231-2826-924     |
Vertretung West/Dortmund          | Fax:   +49-5121-206917-5555 |
Amtsgericht Hildesheim, HRA 2686  | http://www.pengutronix.de   |


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-23  8:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-22 12:11 [PATCH v4 0/1] pruss CAN driver Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:11 ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add " Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 12:11   ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-22 15:50   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-22 15:50     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-25 20:06     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-25 20:06       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-25 20:06       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:08       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:08         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:08         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-04-27 13:21         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:21           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:21           ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-04-27 13:25         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 13:25           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-04-27 13:25           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04  7:13           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04  7:13             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04  7:13             ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-04 13:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 13:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 13:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 14:33               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 14:33                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 14:33                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 14:48                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 14:48                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 14:48                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-04 16:00                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 16:00                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 16:00                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-10 10:11                     ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:11                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:11                       ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 10:27                       ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10 10:27                         ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10 10:27                         ` Alan Cox
2011-05-10 12:21                         ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 12:21                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-10 12:21                           ` Subhasish Ghosh
2011-05-11 21:31                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:31                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:44                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:44                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 21:44                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-11 22:39                               ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-11 22:39                                 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-11 22:39                                 ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-11 22:56                                 ` Alan Cox
2011-05-11 22:56                                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-11 22:56                                   ` Alan Cox
2011-05-12  3:03                                   ` can: hardware vs. software filter Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12  3:03                                     ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12  7:13                               ` [PATCH v4 1/1] can: add pruss CAN driver Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:13                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:13                                 ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12 10:58                                 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12 10:58                                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12 10:58                                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-12 12:54                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-12 12:54                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-12 12:54                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-12 13:04                                   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-12 13:04                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-12 13:04                                     ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-12 14:41                                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-12 14:41                                   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-12 14:41                                   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-22 10:30                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-22 10:30                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-22 10:30                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-23  6:21                                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-23  6:21                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-23  6:21                                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-23  8:23                                       ` Marc Kleine-Budde [this message]
2011-05-23  8:23                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-23  8:23                                         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2011-05-27  8:31                                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-27  8:31                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-27  8:31                                         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:04                             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:04                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-12  7:04                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 15:57                 ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-04 15:57                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-04 15:57                   ` Kurt Van Dijck
2011-05-04 16:09                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 16:09                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 16:09                     ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-05-04 20:55                     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-04 20:55                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-05-04 20:55                       ` Oliver Hartkopp
2011-04-27 13:28         ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:28           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:28           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:34           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:34             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-27 13:34             ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2011-04-24 11:13   ` Marc Kleine-Budde

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