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From: Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details
Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 18:59:20 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DE0B968.8040004@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DE093B6.9060504@emk-elektronik.de>

On 28/05/11 16:18, Reinhard Meyer wrote:
> Dear Graeme Russ,
>> u32 get_timer(u32 base)
>> {
>>     if (base != 0) {
>>         if (timer - base<  (CONFIG_MIN_TIMER_RESOLUTION * 2))
>>             return 0;
>>         else
>>             return timer - base - CONFIG_MIN_TIMER_RESOLUTION;
>>     } else {
>>         return timer;
>>     }
>> }
> 
> This is not good. get_timer() should not do more than just return the timer
> difference since epoch and not contain any funky logic.
> 
> I might point again to my futile suggestion of simply calculating the "end
> tick"
> of a timeout loop at begin of the loop and inside the loop just checking
> whether that
> "end tick" has passed.
> 
> When that were used, none of those complicated quirks that were devised in
> this
> thread would be needed. Just calculate the "end tick" by rounding it up by one
> and all is pretty simple...

This will not work - Example (10ms wait with 10ms timer resolution)

	get_timer(0) @ 109ms returns 100

	end_time = 110

	end_time will be reached in 1ms, not 10 as expected

To make this work, you will need to do the resolution adjustment _at the
timing loop_ - This is the last place to expect to have to make such an
adjustment

Alternatively, add _another_ API function: end_time() which does the
adjustment:

	end_time = end_time(timeout);

	while (get_timer() < end_time) {
		/* Do Stuff */
	}

But this also is not failsafe:
	

	end_time = get_timer() + timeout

is, to me, a more natural expression of what is desired and what many
programmers are likely to write (naively ignorant of resolution concerns)

It's all a matter of degrees and what is the lesser of two (or three or
four) evils ;)

Regards.

Graeme

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-28  8:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-26 13:27 [U-Boot] [RFC][Timer API] Revised Specification - Implementation details Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 15:57 ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 17:28   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:44     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  5:23       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27  7:40         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:46           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-26 16:56 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:53   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 18:52     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 19:16       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 19:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 20:27           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 20:39             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 22:59       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-26 23:28   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  1:26     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  1:51       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  3:54         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  4:33           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  6:33             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  6:54               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 15:49                 ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  0:32                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:33           ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:16             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:28       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:04         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27  7:13     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:35       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:48         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:57           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  8:01             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 11:27               ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 12:43                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27 13:07                   ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-27 15:00                     ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:13                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 17:11                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-27 15:44                       ` Scott McNutt
2011-05-27 15:59                         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-29 15:55                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-29 19:12                       ` Simon Glass
2011-05-30 10:57                         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 11:47                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-30 12:31                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-30 12:46                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-30 18:57                           ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  0:24                             ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:07                               ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:24                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  4:36                                   ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  4:53                                     ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:56                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:45                               ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  4:53                                 ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  5:03                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:16                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:03                                     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:23                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  5:18                                   ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  5:37                                     ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-31  6:10                                       ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  4:56                           ` Simon Glass
2011-05-31  5:49                             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-31  6:28                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-31  6:29                                 ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 13:17                           ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 16:03                             ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 20:38                               ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-15 21:58                                 ` Simon Glass
2011-06-15 23:09                                   ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16  5:53                                     ` Simon Glass
2011-06-16  6:27                                       ` Graeme Russ
2011-06-16 13:58                                         ` Simon Glass
2011-05-27 11:26             ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:23         ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-28  5:53           ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-28  6:18             ` Reinhard Meyer
2011-05-28  8:59               ` Graeme Russ [this message]
2011-05-29  1:41             ` J. William Campbell
2011-05-26 17:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-26 22:51   ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:17     ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27  7:33       ` Graeme Russ
2011-05-27  7:45         ` Wolfgang Denk
2011-05-27 14:58           ` Simon Glass

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