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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: minchan.kim@gmail.com
Cc: caiqian@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	rientjes@google.com, hughd@google.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory  (aka CAI founded issue)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:07:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DEC4463.1060206@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110601033258.GA12653@barrios-laptop>

>> Of course, we recommend to drop privileges as far as possible
>> instead of keeping them. Thus, oom killer don't have to check
>> any capability. It implicitly suggest wrong programming style.
>>
>> This patch change root process check way from CAP_SYS_ADMIN to
>> just euid==0.
> 
> I like this but I have some comments.
> Firstly, it's not dependent with your series so I think this could
> be merged firstly.

I agree.

> Before that, I would like to make clear my concern.
> As I look below comment, 3% bonus is dependent with __vm_enough_memory's logic?

No. completely independent.

vm_enough_memory() check the task _can_ allocate more memory. IOW, the task
is subjective. And oom-killer check the task should be protected from oom-killer.
IOW, the task is objective.


> If it isn't, we can remove the comment. It would be another patch.
> If is is, could we change __vm_enough_memory for euid instead of cap?
> 
>         * Root processes get 3% bonus, just like the __vm_enough_memory()
> 	* implementation used by LSMs.

vm_enough_memory() is completely correct. I don't see any reason to change it.



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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: minchan.kim@gmail.com
Cc: caiqian@redhat.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	rientjes@google.com, hughd@google.com,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, oleg@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory  (aka CAI founded issue)
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:07:15 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DEC4463.1060206@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110601033258.GA12653@barrios-laptop>

>> Of course, we recommend to drop privileges as far as possible
>> instead of keeping them. Thus, oom killer don't have to check
>> any capability. It implicitly suggest wrong programming style.
>>
>> This patch change root process check way from CAP_SYS_ADMIN to
>> just euid==0.
> 
> I like this but I have some comments.
> Firstly, it's not dependent with your series so I think this could
> be merged firstly.

I agree.

> Before that, I would like to make clear my concern.
> As I look below comment, 3% bonus is dependent with __vm_enough_memory's logic?

No. completely independent.

vm_enough_memory() check the task _can_ allocate more memory. IOW, the task
is subjective. And oom-killer check the task should be protected from oom-killer.
IOW, the task is objective.


> If it isn't, we can remove the comment. It would be another patch.
> If is is, could we change __vm_enough_memory for euid instead of cap?
> 
>         * Root processes get 3% bonus, just like the __vm_enough_memory()
> 	* implementation used by LSMs.

vm_enough_memory() is completely correct. I don't see any reason to change it.


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  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-06  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-20  8:00 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:00 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] oom: improve dump_tasks() show items KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:01   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:16   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:16     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20  8:02 ` [PATCH 2/5] oom: kill younger process first KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:02   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  2:37   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  2:37     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23 22:20   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:20     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-20  8:03 ` [PATCH 3/5] oom: oom-killer don't use proportion of system-ram internally KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:03   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  3:59   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  3:59     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:14     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:14       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:32       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:32         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  4:02   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  4:02     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:44     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:44       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  3:11       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  3:11         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:28   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:28     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:48     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:48       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:21       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:21         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  8:32       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-24  8:32         ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  7:08       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  7:08         ` CAI Qian
2011-05-27 19:12         ` David Rientjes
2011-05-27 19:12           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  2:07     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  2:07       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-26  9:34   ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  9:34     ` CAI Qian
2011-05-26  9:56     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-26  9:56       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:04 ` [PATCH 4/5] oom: don't kill random process KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:04   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23  4:31   ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-23  4:31     ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  1:53     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:53       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  8:46       ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  8:46         ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  8:49         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  8:49           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:04           ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:04             ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:09             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:09               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:20               ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:20                 ` Minchan Kim
2011-05-24  9:38                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  9:38                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-23 22:32   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-23 22:32     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:35     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:35       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:39       ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:39         ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:55         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:55           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  1:58           ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  1:58             ` David Rientjes
2011-05-24  2:03             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-24  2:03               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-25 23:50               ` David Rientjes
2011-05-25 23:50                 ` David Rientjes
2011-05-30  1:17                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-30  1:17                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:48                   ` David Rientjes
2011-05-31  4:48                     ` David Rientjes
2011-05-31  4:54                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:54                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:05 ` [PATCH 5/5] oom: merge oom_kill_process() with oom_kill_task() KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-20  8:05   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  1:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix oom killer doesn't work at all if system have > gigabytes memory (aka CAI founded issue) CAI Qian
2011-05-31  1:33   ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:10   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:10     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:14     ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:14       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:34       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:34         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:49       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:49         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:32     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:32       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  4:52     ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  4:52       ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:04       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:04         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:50         ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:50           ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:56           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:56             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  7:59             ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  7:59               ` CAI Qian
2011-05-31  8:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31  8:11                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 10:01                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-05-31 10:01                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-01  1:17                   ` CAI Qian
2011-06-01  1:17                     ` CAI Qian
2011-06-01  3:32                   ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-01  3:32                     ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-06  3:07                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2011-06-06  3:07                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2011-06-06 14:44                       ` Minchan Kim
2011-06-06 14:44                         ` Minchan Kim

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