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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	quintela@redhat.com, KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: KVM call agenda for June 28
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:39:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0C6E8D.9040705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinkZmGmkte8iDXzU5twZ7sbzY1aMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 30.06.2011 13:48, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:08:23AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> In the future we could add a 'base' argument to block_stream.  If base
>>> is specified then data contained in the base image will not be copied.
>>
>> This is a present requirement.
> 
> It's not one that I have had in the past but it is a reasonable requirement.
> 
> One interesting thing about this requirement is that it makes
> copy-on-read seem like the wrong primitive for image streaming.  If
> there is a base image which should not be streamed then a plain loop
> that calls bdrv_is_allocated_chain(bs, base, sector, &pnum) and copies
> sectors into bs is more straightforward than passing base to a
> copy-on-read operation somehow (through a variable that stashes the
> base away somewhere?).

You don't even have to look at the implementation to say that COR is a
useful optimisation. It basically means that you reuse data read by the
guest instead of reading it a second time in your loop. (And this is
equally true for block copy and image streaming)

If this means adding a new field in BlockDriverState, so be it.

Kevin

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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	KVM devel mailing list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	quintela@redhat.com, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] KVM call agenda for June 28
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:39:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0C6E8D.9040705@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinkZmGmkte8iDXzU5twZ7sbzY1aMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am 30.06.2011 13:48, schrieb Stefan Hajnoczi:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:08:23AM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> In the future we could add a 'base' argument to block_stream.  If base
>>> is specified then data contained in the base image will not be copied.
>>
>> This is a present requirement.
> 
> It's not one that I have had in the past but it is a reasonable requirement.
> 
> One interesting thing about this requirement is that it makes
> copy-on-read seem like the wrong primitive for image streaming.  If
> there is a base image which should not be streamed then a plain loop
> that calls bdrv_is_allocated_chain(bs, base, sector, &pnum) and copies
> sectors into bs is more straightforward than passing base to a
> copy-on-read operation somehow (through a variable that stashes the
> base away somewhere?).

You don't even have to look at the implementation to say that COR is a
useful optimisation. It basically means that you reuse data read by the
guest instead of reading it a second time in your loop. (And this is
equally true for block copy and image streaming)

If this means adding a new field in BlockDriverState, so be it.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-30 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-27 14:32 KVM call agenda for June 28 Juan Quintela
2011-06-27 14:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2011-06-28 13:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-28 13:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-28 19:41   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-28 19:41     ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-29  5:32     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  5:32       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29  7:57     ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29  7:57       ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-06-29 10:08       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 10:08         ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-29 15:41         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-29 15:41           ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-30 11:48           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 11:48             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 12:39             ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2011-06-30 12:39               ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-30 12:54           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 12:54             ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-30 14:36             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-30 14:36               ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-06-30 14:52               ` Kevin Wolf
2011-06-30 14:52                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2011-06-30 18:38                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05  8:01                   ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 12:40                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 12:40                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 12:58                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 12:58                         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 13:39                         ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 13:39                           ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 14:29                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:29                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:32                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:32                             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 14:46                             ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-05 14:46                               ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-05 15:04                             ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 15:04                               ` Dor Laor
2011-07-05 15:29                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 15:29                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 15:37                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 15:37                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-05 18:18                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-05 18:18                                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2011-07-06  7:48                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-06  7:48                                   ` Kevin Wolf
2011-07-07 15:25                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-07-07 15:25                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-06-28 13:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-28 13:43   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-06-28 13:48   ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-28 13:48     ` Avi Kivity
2011-06-30 14:10     ` Anthony Liguori

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