couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Robert P. J. Day]

  (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
will have nothing left to whine about.)

  from quick start manual, i notice that all toolchain tarballs have
"sdk" in the filename, whereas the actual downloads have "gmae".  a
simple textual fix, i'm assuming.  (what means "gmae"?)

  more significantly, QS manual states that toolchains "should" be
installed under /opt/poky.  "should" is a loaded word -- it implies a
recommendation for some benefit but not an actual requirement.  and
installing it there requires the reader to have root privilege,
something to be avoided if at all possible.

  can someone clarify the "shouldness" or "mustness" of toolchain
installation under /opt/poky?

rday

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Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Richard Purdie]

On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 10:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
> will have nothing left to whine about.)

:)

>   from quick start manual, i notice that all toolchain tarballs have
> "sdk" in the filename, whereas the actual downloads have "gmae".  a
> simple textual fix, i'm assuming.  (what means "gmae"?)

GMAE = GNOME Mobile and Embedded

think cut down GNOME.

>   more significantly, QS manual states that toolchains "should" be
> installed under /opt/poky.  "should" is a loaded word -- it implies a
> recommendation for some benefit but not an actual requirement.  and
> installing it there requires the reader to have root privilege,
> something to be avoided if at all possible.
> 
>   can someone clarify the "shouldness" or "mustness" of toolchain
> installation under /opt/poky?

At this point its a requirement, we'd like to relax that but it isn't
possible right now.

Cheers,

Richard

Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Richard Purdie wrote:

> On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 10:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
> > will have nothing left to whine about.)
>
> :)
>
> >   from quick start manual, i notice that all toolchain tarballs have
> > "sdk" in the filename, whereas the actual downloads have "gmae".  a
> > simple textual fix, i'm assuming.  (what means "gmae"?)
>
> GMAE = GNOME Mobile and Embedded
>
> think cut down GNOME.

  ah, of course.

> >   more significantly, QS manual states that toolchains "should" be
> > installed under /opt/poky.  "should" is a loaded word -- it
> > implies a recommendation for some benefit but not an actual
> > requirement.  and installing it there requires the reader to have
> > root privilege, something to be avoided if at all possible.
> >
> >   can someone clarify the "shouldness" or "mustness" of toolchain
> > installation under /opt/poky?
>
> At this point its a requirement, we'd like to relax that but it
> isn't possible right now.

  ok, then that sentence should simply be reworded to make it clear
that it's not optional and root privilege is required.  patch to
follow shortly.

rday

Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Rifenbark, Scott M]

Wording change taken care of.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 7:25 AM
To: Robert P. J. Day
Cc: Yocto discussion list
Subject: Re: [yocto] couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 10:15 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
> will have nothing left to whine about.)

:)

>   from quick start manual, i notice that all toolchain tarballs have
> "sdk" in the filename, whereas the actual downloads have "gmae".  a
> simple textual fix, i'm assuming.  (what means "gmae"?)

GMAE = GNOME Mobile and Embedded

think cut down GNOME.

>   more significantly, QS manual states that toolchains "should" be
> installed under /opt/poky.  "should" is a loaded word -- it implies a
> recommendation for some benefit but not an actual requirement.  and
> installing it there requires the reader to have root privilege,
> something to be avoided if at all possible.
> 
>   can someone clarify the "shouldness" or "mustness" of toolchain
> installation under /opt/poky?

At this point its a requirement, we'd like to relax that but it isn't
possible right now.

Cheers,

Richard

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Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Fri, 15 Jul 2011, Rifenbark, Scott M wrote:

> Wording change taken care of.
>
> Scott

  ok, i can cross that off my list, thanks.

rday

Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Scott Garman]

On 07/15/2011 07:15 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>
>    (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
> will have nothing left to whine about.)

:)

I know I can speak for the team in saying we're incredibly grateful for 
your help in combing through our documentation. This is a great 
contribution to the project.

Thanks!

Scott

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Scott Garman
Embedded Linux Engineer - Yocto Project
Intel Open Source Technology Center

Re: couple questions about toolchains from QS manual

[Darren Hart]

On 07/15/2011 09:55 AM, Scott Garman wrote:
> On 07/15/2011 07:15 AM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
>>
>>    (look on the bright side -- eventually, after many, many patches, i
>> will have nothing left to whine about.)
> 
> :)
> 
> I know I can speak for the team in saying we're incredibly grateful for 
> your help in combing through our documentation. This is a great 
> contribution to the project.

Agreed - thanks Robert!


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Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel