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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
Cc: "Nickolay V. Shmyrev" <nshmyrev@yandex.ru>,
	Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <lpoetter@redhat.com>,
	ALSA devel <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch][saa7134] do not change mute state for capturing audio
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:48:59 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E26B29B.4010109@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E26B1E7.2080107@list.ru>

Em 20-07-2011 07:45, Stas Sergeev escreveu:
> 20.07.2011 14:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> I won't keep discussing something that won't be merged, as it will
>> cause regressions.
> Please explain what regressions it will make!
> I am asking that question over and over again, and
> every time you either ignore it, or refer to an apps
> that use v4l2 ioctls, which are unaffected.
> I wonder why you don't want to explain what regressions
> do you have in mind...
> 
>> If the application is starting streaming, audio should be expected on
>> devices
>> where the audio output is internally wired with the capture input.
>> This seems to be the case of your device. There's nothing that can be
>> done to fix a bad hardware design or the lack of enough information
>> from the device manufacturer.
> Well, until you explain the exact breakage of my proposal,
> I won't trust this. :)

I've said already: mplayer for example relies on such behavior to work. Reverting
it breaks mplayer. This is enough for me to NACK your patch.

> 
>> I suspect, however, that not changing the GPIO's is a very bad idea, and
>> it will actually break audio for devices with external GPIO-based input
>> switches, but, as this version was already done, it might be useful for some
>> tests. A version 3 will follow shortly.
> I'll test at a week-end whatever we'll have to that date.

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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>
To: Stas Sergeev <stsp@list.ru>
Cc: Lennart Poettering <lpoetter@redhat.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	"Nickolay V. Shmyrev" <nshmyrev@yandex.ru>,
	Devin Heitmueller <dheitmueller@kernellabs.com>,
	ALSA devel <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][saa7134] do not change mute state for capturing audio
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 07:48:59 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E26B29B.4010109@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E26B1E7.2080107@list.ru>

Em 20-07-2011 07:45, Stas Sergeev escreveu:
> 20.07.2011 14:32, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> I won't keep discussing something that won't be merged, as it will
>> cause regressions.
> Please explain what regressions it will make!
> I am asking that question over and over again, and
> every time you either ignore it, or refer to an apps
> that use v4l2 ioctls, which are unaffected.
> I wonder why you don't want to explain what regressions
> do you have in mind...
> 
>> If the application is starting streaming, audio should be expected on
>> devices
>> where the audio output is internally wired with the capture input.
>> This seems to be the case of your device. There's nothing that can be
>> done to fix a bad hardware design or the lack of enough information
>> from the device manufacturer.
> Well, until you explain the exact breakage of my proposal,
> I won't trust this. :)

I've said already: mplayer for example relies on such behavior to work. Reverting
it breaks mplayer. This is enough for me to NACK your patch.

> 
>> I suspect, however, that not changing the GPIO's is a very bad idea, and
>> it will actually break audio for devices with external GPIO-based input
>> switches, but, as this version was already done, it might be useful for some
>> tests. A version 3 will follow shortly.
> I'll test at a week-end whatever we'll have to that date.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-20 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-10 16:27 [patch][saa7134] do not change mute state for capturing audio Stas Sergeev
2011-07-13 20:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-13 21:11   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-13 22:00     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-14  5:39       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-15  1:38         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-15  5:40           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-15  6:16           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-17  9:44           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-17 11:51             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-17 12:24               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-17 12:24                 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-18 23:16               ` Lennart Poettering
2011-07-19  6:31                 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-19 12:25                   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-07-19 12:25                     ` [alsa-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2011-07-19 13:00                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-19 13:13                   ` [alsa-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2011-07-19 13:49                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-19 14:10                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-19 14:56                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-19 15:27                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-19 15:50                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-19 18:06                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-19 18:38                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-19 19:29                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-19 21:57                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-20  0:55                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-20  5:28                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-20  5:28                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-20 10:32                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-20 10:41                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-20 10:45                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-20 10:48                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2011-07-20 10:48                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-20 10:55                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-20 10:55                                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-22  7:51                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-22 12:28                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-22 12:39                                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-22 12:49                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-22 12:56                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-22 13:03                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-22 20:40                                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-23  1:28                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-23  7:44                                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-23 13:06                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-23 13:20                                                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-23 15:09                                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-23 15:14                                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-23 15:25                                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-24 17:45                                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
     [not found]                                                                         ` <4E2C6638.2040707@infrade ad.org>
2011-07-24 18:36                                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-24 18:36                                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-07-24 19:00                                                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-24 19:00                                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-25 11:15                                                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-07-25 11:15                                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-18 15:18                                                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-18 15:18                                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 10:57                                                                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 10:57                                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 11:12                                                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 11:12                                                                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:12                                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:12                                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:36                                                                                   ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:36                                                                                     ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:48                                                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:48                                                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 13:20                                                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 13:20                                                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 15:09                                                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 15:09                                                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 15:51                                                                                           ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 15:51                                                                                             ` Stas Sergeev
2011-12-03 20:40                                                                                       ` Stas Sergeev
2011-12-03 20:40                                                                                         ` Stas Sergeev
2012-01-02 10:12                                                                                       ` [resend][patch][saa7134] fix automute " Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:05                                                                             ` [patch][saa7134] do not change mute state " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:05                                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:33                                                                               ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:33                                                                                 ` Stas Sergeev
2011-09-24 12:46                                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-09-24 12:46                                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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