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* Re: strange
  2002-11-08 15:19   ` strange Manikandan.P
@ 2002-11-08 15:05     ` hare ram
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: hare ram @ 2002-11-08 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Manikandan.P; +Cc: netfilter

looks strange

hare
----- Original Message -----
From: "Manikandan.P" <linuxmani@myrealbox.com>
To: "hare ram" <hareram@sol.net.in>
Cc: <netfilter@lists.samba.org>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: strange


> On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 20:27, hare ram wrote:
> > hi
> >
> > can you just type
> > iptables -nL -t nat
> > and paste here, or
> > just do iptable -F and check and u able to ping ?
> >
> i hv set the default policy as drop hence if i flush
> the rules i cannot ping it.
> moreover the problem is only with the linux boxes ,all my windows
> machines happily use the gateway.
>
> Manikandan P.
> > hare
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Manikandan.P" <linuxmani@myrealbox.com>
> > To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:22 PM
> > Subject: (no subject)
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > >  In my n/w iam using iptables firewall in my gateway and now the
problem
> > > is iam able to use that machine as a default gateway for all the
> > > windows machines in my network but i cannot even ping the
> > > gateway/firewall from linux machine.
> > >  the strange thing is if i ping a client linux machine from the
firewall
> > > it pings and from then onwards i can ping/use the gateway to browse
the
> > > net even from a linux machine.
> > >  every time if i want to use that g/w from a linux  machine i had to
> > > ping the client machine from the firewall to enable it.
> > >  iam using iptables 1.2.5/Redhat Linux 7.3
> > >
> > >
> > >  can any body help me out to resolve this strange problem
> > >
> > > Manikandan P.
> > >
> > > --
> > >  # get Subject header, but remove initial "Subject: " portion
> > >  sed '/^Subject: */!d; s///;q'
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> --
>  # add a leading angle bracket and space to each line (quote a message)
>  sed 's/^/> /'
>
>



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* Re: strange
  2002-11-08 14:57 ` hare ram
@ 2002-11-08 15:19   ` Manikandan.P
  2002-11-08 15:05     ` strange hare ram
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Manikandan.P @ 2002-11-08 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: hare ram; +Cc: netfilter

On Fri, 2002-11-08 at 20:27, hare ram wrote:
> hi
> 
> can you just type 
> iptables -nL -t nat
> and paste here, or
> just do iptable -F and check and u able to ping ?
> 
i hv set the default policy as drop hence if i flush 
the rules i cannot ping it.
moreover the problem is only with the linux boxes ,all my windows
machines happily use the gateway.

Manikandan P. 
> hare
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Manikandan.P" <linuxmani@myrealbox.com>
> To: <netfilter@lists.netfilter.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 8:22 PM
> Subject: (no subject)
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> >  In my n/w iam using iptables firewall in my gateway and now the problem
> > is iam able to use that machine as a default gateway for all the
> > windows machines in my network but i cannot even ping the
> > gateway/firewall from linux machine.
> >  the strange thing is if i ping a client linux machine from the firewall
> > it pings and from then onwards i can ping/use the gateway to browse the
> > net even from a linux machine.
> >  every time if i want to use that g/w from a linux  machine i had to
> > ping the client machine from the firewall to enable it.
> >  iam using iptables 1.2.5/Redhat Linux 7.3
> >  
> > 
> >  can any body help me out to resolve this strange problem
> > 
> > Manikandan P.
> >  
> > -- 
> >  # get Subject header, but remove initial "Subject: " portion
> >  sed '/^Subject: */!d; s///;q'
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
-- 
 # add a leading angle bracket and space to each line (quote a message)
 sed 's/^/> /'



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* Strange
@ 2007-01-23 23:41 Christoph Anton Mitterer
  2007-01-24  0:09 ` Strange Alan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer @ 2007-01-23 23:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-kernel

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Hi.

I'm using a kernel 2.6.18.1 with a Plextor PX-769A CD/DVD drive (using
the old IDE drivers)... The drive itself is brand-new. The firmware
version is 1.06 (which is the most recent).

There are to issues I experience.

1) On some (but not all) DVD-Videos I get the following messages:

kernel: hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
kernel: hdb: command error: error=0x54 { AbortedCommand
LastFailedSense=0x05 }
kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
kernel: ATAPI device hdb:
kernel:   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
kernel:   Read of scrambled sector without authentication -- (asc=0x6f,
ascq=0x03)
kernel:   The failed "Read 10" packet command was:
kernel:   "28 00 00 00 01 38 00 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 "
kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 1248

What do they mean? Does it indicate a damage in the drive? Or a firmware
error? Anyway I can read the contents of the media (and watch the movies
on it)....

The error appears after mounting the discs (but as I've said, not with
every disc).

Any ideas?



2) As far as I can remember, when a disc was mounted, the eject button
was disabled. But now, when I press the eject button, the disc is
ejected (and it seems that it is unmounted, at least mount doesn't show
it any longer).

Is this the correct behaviour? I'd doubt that.




Thanks in advance,
Chris.

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-24  0:09 ` Strange Alan
@ 2007-01-24  0:01   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
  2007-01-24  1:17     ` Strange Alan
  2007-01-24  1:55     ` Strange Alistair John Strachan
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer @ 2007-01-24  0:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan; +Cc: linux-kernel

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Alan wrote:
>> kernel:   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
>> kernel:   Read of scrambled sector without authentication -- (asc=0x6f,
>> ascq=0x03)
>>     
>
> The disc is using digital rights management. If you are in a country that
> permits it you can use a dvd reader library with decss support, if not
> you'll have to either watch your disks on a system approved by the movie
> industry enforcers or commit a crime to read the disc.
>   
I knew of course about libdvdcss but I've never noticed before that the
kernel issues these error messages to the syslog.

So you say this is normal?! But the problem with ejecting isn't probably
normal.

Best wishes,
Chris.

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-23 23:41 Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
@ 2007-01-24  0:09 ` Alan
  2007-01-24  0:01   ` Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan @ 2007-01-24  0:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Anton Mitterer; +Cc: linux-kernel

> kernel:   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
> kernel:   Read of scrambled sector without authentication -- (asc=0x6f,
> ascq=0x03)

The disc is using digital rights management. If you are in a country that
permits it you can use a dvd reader library with decss support, if not
you'll have to either watch your disks on a system approved by the movie
industry enforcers or commit a crime to read the disc.

Alan

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-24  0:01   ` Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
@ 2007-01-24  1:17     ` Alan
  2007-01-24 12:23       ` Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
  2007-01-24  1:55     ` Strange Alistair John Strachan
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alan @ 2007-01-24  1:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Anton Mitterer; +Cc: linux-kernel

> I knew of course about libdvdcss but I've never noticed before that the
> kernel issues these error messages to the syslog.

Various bits of random desktop junk poll drives to see what has appeared
and stick icons on desktops. Some of them do stuff that produces messages
like this because they aren't careful how they probe and what they do.

> So you say this is normal?! But the problem with ejecting isn't probably
> normal.

Eject is application controllable. Most movie players re-enable the
button.

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-24  0:01   ` Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
  2007-01-24  1:17     ` Strange Alan
@ 2007-01-24  1:55     ` Alistair John Strachan
  2007-01-24 12:42       ` Strange Christoph Anton Mitterer
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Alistair John Strachan @ 2007-01-24  1:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Christoph Anton Mitterer; +Cc: Alan, linux-kernel

On Wednesday 24 January 2007 00:01, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote:
> Alan wrote:
> >> kernel:   Error: Illegal request -- (Sense key=0x05)
> >> kernel:   Read of scrambled sector without authentication -- (asc=0x6f,
> >> ascq=0x03)
> >
> > The disc is using digital rights management. If you are in a country that
> > permits it you can use a dvd reader library with decss support, if not
> > you'll have to either watch your disks on a system approved by the movie
> > industry enforcers or commit a crime to read the disc.
>
> I knew of course about libdvdcss but I've never noticed before that the
> kernel issues these error messages to the syslog.

If you've replaced the drive, the decss keys might have changed for inserted 
media (this is especially true if your old drive had a different region 
setting).

First set the DVD region on the drive to where you are (probably 2), 
using "regionset". Then rm -rf ~/.dvdcss and restart your video playing 
application. It should rescan the dvd, figure out the keys, no error 
messages.

> So you say this is normal?! But the problem with ejecting isn't probably
> normal.

Yeah, like Alan says it's just the DRM nonsense built into your drive trying 
to "protect" the media. You can find firmware modifications which remove this 
logic from the drive, but I'm not sure of their legality.

-- 
Cheers,
Alistair.

Final year Computer Science undergraduate.
1F2 55 South Clerk Street, Edinburgh, UK.

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-24  1:17     ` Strange Alan
@ 2007-01-24 12:23       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer @ 2007-01-24 12:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alan; +Cc: linux-kernel

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Alan wrote:
>> I knew of course about libdvdcss but I've never noticed before that the
>> kernel issues these error messages to the syslog.
>>     
> Various bits of random desktop junk poll drives to see what has appeared
> and stick icons on desktops. Some of them do stuff that produces messages
> like this because they aren't careful how they probe and what they do.
>   
Yes of course, but I've disabled that end-user stuff, and for
convenience even tested the whole thing with runlevel 1 (single user).


>> So you say this is normal?! But the problem with ejecting isn't probably
>> normal.
>>     
> Eject is application controllable. Most movie players re-enable the
> button.
>   
Yes I knew,.. I just wondered because that worked even when no player
was started at all. But I found out that this must depend on GNOME,
because when mount + eject-button from single-user,.. the disc is not
ejected.
Anyway it is ejected (+unmounted) when using the eject command (but I
assume that this is normal).

Thanks,
Chris.

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* Re: Strange
  2007-01-24  1:55     ` Strange Alistair John Strachan
@ 2007-01-24 12:42       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer @ 2007-01-24 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Alistair John Strachan; +Cc: Alan, linux-kernel

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Alistair John Strachan wrote:
>> I knew of course about libdvdcss but I've never noticed before that the
>> kernel issues these error messages to the syslog.
>>     
> If you've replaced the drive, the decss keys might have changed for inserted 
> media (this is especially true if your old drive had a different region 
> setting).
>   
Yes,... but as I've just told Alan,... it happens even when just
mounting (an not using libdvdcss at all).

> First set the DVD region on the drive to where you are (probably 2), 
> using "regionset".
That was already done (by factory I assume):
# regionset /dev/hdb
regionset version 0.1 -- reads/sets region code on DVD drives
Current Region Code settings:
RPC Phase: II
type: SET
vendor resets available: 4
user controlled changes resets available: 4
drive plays discs from region(s): 2, mask=0xFD

Would you like to change the region setting of your drive? [y/n]:n


> Then rm -rf ~/.dvdcss and restart your video playing 
> application. It should rescan the dvd, figure out the keys, no error 
> messages.
>   
Playing just works normal (even without recreation of the dvdcss cache)
it's just the syslog message when mounting that makes me nervous ;)


Thanks,
Chris.

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* Strange.
@ 2011-08-02  8:19 Fyodor Ustinov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Fyodor Ustinov @ 2011-08-02  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ceph-devel

Hi!

I'm not sure that makes sense with errors on ext4 complain about errors 
in ceph.fs, but maybe it will be interesting:

root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia/amanda# rm -rf *
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/butan.dcv/_': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/iprit.dcv/_': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/mail.naperehresti.info/_usr': 
Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/ns4.dc.volia.com/_': Directory 
not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/ticket.dcv/_': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/tmg.net.ua/_': Directory not empty
rm: cannot remove `state/servers/index/zoman.dcv/_': Directory not empty

and got in mds:


2011-08-02 11:04:52.046169    pg v540175: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:46.433515 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 10 : [ERR] unmatched fragstat size on single 
dirfrag 609, inode has f(v3 m2011-08-02 11:04:46.433412 2=2+0), dirfrag 
has f(v3 m2011-08-02 11:04:46.433412 1=1+0)
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:46.433555 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 11 : [ERR] unmatched rstat rbytes on single 
dirfrag 609, inode has n(v7 rc2011-08-02 11:04:46.433412 b43119 2=2+0), 
dirfrag has n(v7 rc2011-08-02 11:04:46.433412 b40923 1=1+0)
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:52.225521 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 12 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
10000000444 [...2,head] /dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/butan.dcv/ 
auth v4244 pv4303 ap=1+0 f(v7 m2011-06-09 03:27:48.159602 1=0+1) n(v79 
rc2011-07-18 00:10:13.483555 b748540 39=37+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 
dirty) (iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps authpin 0xbac78c0]
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:52.225868 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 13 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
10000000446 [...2,head] /dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/iprit.dcv/ 
auth v4246 pv4305 ap=1+0 f(v7 m2011-06-09 03:27:48.170333 1=0+1) n(v85 
rc2011-07-18 00:10:41.619778 b727904 39=37+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 
dirty) (iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps authpin 0xbac9a40]
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:52.226004 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 14 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
1000000042f [...2,head] 
/dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/mail.naperehresti.info/ auth v4286 
pv4307 ap=1+0 f(v7 m2011-08-02 11:04:46.712436 1=0+1) n(v297 
rc2011-08-02 11:04:46.712436 1=-1+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 dirty) 
(iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXs/-@1,5107=pAsLsXs/p@10} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps dirty authpin 0xbaca2a0]
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:52.226170 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 15 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
10000000358 [...2,head] 
/dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/ns4.dc.volia.com/ auth v4238 pv4309 
ap=1+0 f(v5 m2011-06-20 00:05:09.195242 1=0+1) n(v77 rc2011-07-18 
00:06:13.112554 b2354733 28=26+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 dirty) (iversion 
lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | dirtyscattered lock 
dirfrag caps authpin 0xbacab00]
2011-08-02 11:04:52.408819   log 2011-08-02 11:04:52.226307 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 16 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
10000000438 [...2,head] /dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/ticket.dcv/ 
auth v4148 pv4311 ap=1+0 f(v8 m2011-06-09 03:27:48.035056 1=0+1) n(v104 
rc2011-07-16 00:18:38.420661 b2372408 38=36+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 
dirty) (iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps authpin 0xbacb360]
2011-08-02 11:04:53.050029    pg v540176: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:04:57.046842    pg v540177: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:04:58.050471    pg v540178: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:04:59.053677    pg v540179: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:00.298567    pg v540180: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:02.408930   log 2011-08-02 11:04:57.225360 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 17 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
1000000042d [...2,head] /dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/tmg.net.ua/ 
auth v4200 pv4319 ap=1+0 f(v7 m2011-06-09 03:27:47.988225 1=0+1) n(v121 
rc2011-07-17 00:05:13.012245 b7548498 38=36+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 
dirty) (iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps authpin 0xbacbbc0]
2011-08-02 11:05:02.408930   log 2011-08-02 11:04:57.225726 mds0 
10.5.51.230:6801/23145 18 : [ERR] rfiles underflow -1 on [inode 
1000000043e [...2,head] /dcvolia/amanda/state/servers/index/zoman.dcv/ 
auth v4240 pv4321 ap=1+0 f(v7 m2011-06-09 03:27:48.130542 1=0+1) n(v82 
rc2011-07-18 00:07:40.208712 b721925 39=37+2) (inest lock->sync w=1 
dirty) (iversion lock) caps={4525=pAsLsXsFs/-@0,5107=pAsLsXs/p@4} | 
dirtyscattered lock dirfrag caps authpin 0xbacdd40]
2011-08-02 11:05:05.299638    pg v540181: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:10.303368    pg v540182: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:15.302671    pg v540183: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:18.423366    pg v540184: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:05:20.303675    pg v540185: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:06:02.994535    pg v540186: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail
2011-08-02 11:06:57.057322    pg v540187: 2376 pgs: 2376 active+clean; 
8432 GB data, 16884 GB used, 30847 GB / 49027 GB avail

root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia/amanda# ls -al state/servers/index/butan.dcv/_/
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 1 1002 disk 0 2011-08-02 11:04 .
drwxr-xr-x 1 1002 disk 0 2011-06-09 03:27 ..
root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia/amanda#

root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia/amanda# cd ..
root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia# ls -alh
total 0
drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.3T 2011-07-09 14:50 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7.3T 2011-08-02 11:04 ..
drwxr-xr-x 1 1002 disk  16E 2011-08-02 11:05 amanda
drwxr-xr-x 1  107  115 222G 2011-08-02 01:32 bacula
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root    0 2011-06-18 18:22 hvds
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7.1T 2011-08-02 08:25 noc
root@stb1:/mnt/dcvolia#

I think it is time to make fsck.ceph

WBR,
     Fyodor.


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