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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	libvirt-list@redhat.com, Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Shribman, Aidan" <aidan.shribman@sap.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] XBZRLE delta for live migration of large memory apps
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 09:15:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E3FEF94.8090506@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E3FE9F0.9070702@redhat.com>

On 08/08/2011 08:51 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 08/08/2011 04:29 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> One thing that strikes me about this algorithm is that it's very good
>> for a particular type of workload--shockingly good really.
>
> Poking bytes at random places in memory is fairly generic. If you have a
> lot of small objects, and modify a subset of them, this is the pattern
> you get.
>
>>
>> I think workload aware migration compression is possible for a lot of
>> different types of workloads. That makes me a bit wary of QEMU growing
>> quite a lot of compression mechanisms.
>>
>> It makes me think that this logic may really belong at a higher level
>> where more information is known about the workload. For instance, I
>> can imagine XBZRLE living in something like libvirt.
>
> A better model would be plugin based.

exec helpers are plugins.  They just live in a different address space 
and a channel to exchange data (pipe).

If we did .so plugins, which I'm really not opposed to, I'd want the 
interface to be something like:

typedef struct MigrationTransportClass
{
    ssize_t (*writev)(MigrationTransport *obj,
                      struct iovec *iov,
                      int iovcnt);
} MigrationTransportClass;

I think it's useful to use an interface like this because it makes it 
easy to put the transport in a dedicated thread that didn't hold 
qemu_mutex (which is sort of equivalent to using a fork'd helper but is 
zero-copy at the expense of less isolation).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-08 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-08  8:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] XBZRLE delta for live migration of large memory apps Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-08 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 13:41   ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-08 13:46     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 13:49     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 13:51   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:15     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2011-08-08 14:23       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:33         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 14:39           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 15:08             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 14:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-08 14:42     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:47   ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 14:56     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2011-08-08 15:01       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 15:10     ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 15:15       ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 16:19         ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-08 16:53           ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-08 16:55             ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 15:07               ` Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-10 15:12                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 15:58                   ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 16:08                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 16:23                       ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-10 16:40                         ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-10 19:27                           ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  8:03                             ` Shribman, Aidan
2011-08-11 13:00                               ` Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  8:17                             ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-11  9:16                               ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2011-08-11  9:20                                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-11 13:03                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2011-08-11  9:24                             ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange

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