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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Kevin O'Connor" <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: Andrew Theurer <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	seabios <seabios@seabios.org>, ya su <suya94335@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Subject: Re: HPET configuration in Seabios
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:32:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5B2450.3050209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110828221437.GA27777@morn.localdomain>

On 08/29/2011 01:14 AM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:42:49PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >  On 2011-08-28 20:54, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  On 28.08.2011, at 02:42, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  >
> >  >>  On 08/26/2011 08:32 AM, ya su wrote:
> >  >>>  hi,Avi:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>      I met the same problem, tons of hpet vm_exits(vector 209, fault
> >  >>>  address is in the guest vm's hpet mmio range), even I disable hpet
> >  >>>  device in win7 guest vm, it still produce a larget amount of vm_exits
> >  >>>  when trace-cmd ;  I add -no-hpet to start the vm, it still has HPET
> >  >>>  device inside VM.
> >  >>>
> >  >>>      Does that means the HPET device in VM does not depend on the
> >  >>>  emulated hpet device in qemu-kvm? Is there any way to disable the VM
> >  >>>  HPET device to prevent so many vm_exits?  Thansk.
> >  >>>
> >  >>
> >  >>  Looks like a bug to me.
> >  >
> >  >  IIRC disabling the HPET device doesn't remove the entry from the DSDT, no? So the guest OS might still think it's there while nothing responds (read returns -1).
> >
> >  Exactly. We have a fw_cfg interface in place for quite a while now
> >  (though I wonder how the firmware is supposed to tell -no-hpet apart
> >  from QEMU versions that don't provide this data - both return count =
> >  255), but SeaBios still exposes one HPET block at a hard-coded address
> >  unconditionally.
> >
> >  There was quite some discussion about the corresponding Seabios patches
> >  back then but apparently no consensus was found. Re-reading it, I think
> >  Kevin asked for passing the necessary DSDT fragments from QEMU to the
> >  firmware instead of using a new, proprietary fw_cfg format. Is that
> >  still the key requirement for any patch finally fixing this bug?
>
> My preference would be to use the existing ACPI table passing
> interface (fw_cfg slot 0x8000) to pass different ACPI tables to
> SeaBIOS.
>
> SeaBIOS doesn't currently allow that interface to override tables
> SeaBIOS builds itself, but it's a simple change to rectify that.
>
> When this was last proposed, it was raised that the header information
> in the ACPI table may then not match the tables that SeaBIOS builds.
> I think I proposed at that time that SeaBIOS could use the header of
> the first fw_cfg table (or some other fw_cfg interface) to populate
> the headers of its table headers.  However, there was no consensus.
>
> Note - the above is in regard to the HPET table.  If the HPET entry in
> the DSDT needs to be removed then that's a bigger change.
>

Can't seabios just poke at the hpet itself and see if it exists or not?

-- 
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
Cc: Andrew Theurer <habanero@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	seabios <seabios@seabios.org>, ya su <suya94335@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	QEMU Developers <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] HPET configuration in Seabios
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 08:32:00 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E5B2450.3050209@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110828221437.GA27777@morn.localdomain>

On 08/29/2011 01:14 AM, Kevin O'Connor wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:42:49PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> >  On 2011-08-28 20:54, Alexander Graf wrote:
> >  >
> >  >  On 28.08.2011, at 02:42, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >  >
> >  >>  On 08/26/2011 08:32 AM, ya su wrote:
> >  >>>  hi,Avi:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>      I met the same problem, tons of hpet vm_exits(vector 209, fault
> >  >>>  address is in the guest vm's hpet mmio range), even I disable hpet
> >  >>>  device in win7 guest vm, it still produce a larget amount of vm_exits
> >  >>>  when trace-cmd ;  I add -no-hpet to start the vm, it still has HPET
> >  >>>  device inside VM.
> >  >>>
> >  >>>      Does that means the HPET device in VM does not depend on the
> >  >>>  emulated hpet device in qemu-kvm? Is there any way to disable the VM
> >  >>>  HPET device to prevent so many vm_exits?  Thansk.
> >  >>>
> >  >>
> >  >>  Looks like a bug to me.
> >  >
> >  >  IIRC disabling the HPET device doesn't remove the entry from the DSDT, no? So the guest OS might still think it's there while nothing responds (read returns -1).
> >
> >  Exactly. We have a fw_cfg interface in place for quite a while now
> >  (though I wonder how the firmware is supposed to tell -no-hpet apart
> >  from QEMU versions that don't provide this data - both return count =
> >  255), but SeaBios still exposes one HPET block at a hard-coded address
> >  unconditionally.
> >
> >  There was quite some discussion about the corresponding Seabios patches
> >  back then but apparently no consensus was found. Re-reading it, I think
> >  Kevin asked for passing the necessary DSDT fragments from QEMU to the
> >  firmware instead of using a new, proprietary fw_cfg format. Is that
> >  still the key requirement for any patch finally fixing this bug?
>
> My preference would be to use the existing ACPI table passing
> interface (fw_cfg slot 0x8000) to pass different ACPI tables to
> SeaBIOS.
>
> SeaBIOS doesn't currently allow that interface to override tables
> SeaBIOS builds itself, but it's a simple change to rectify that.
>
> When this was last proposed, it was raised that the header information
> in the ACPI table may then not match the tables that SeaBIOS builds.
> I think I proposed at that time that SeaBIOS could use the header of
> the first fw_cfg table (or some other fw_cfg interface) to populate
> the headers of its table headers.  However, there was no consensus.
>
> Note - the above is in regard to the HPET table.  If the HPET entry in
> the DSDT needs to be removed then that's a bigger change.
>

Can't seabios just poke at the hpet itself and see if it exists or not?

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-29  5:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-03 13:46 windows workload: many ept_violation and mmio exits Andrew Theurer
2009-12-03 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-26  5:32   ` ya su
2011-08-28  7:42     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-28 18:54       ` Alexander Graf
2011-08-28 18:54         ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2011-08-28 20:42         ` HPET configuration in Seabios (was: Re: windows workload: many ept_violation and mmio exits) Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28 20:42           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-08-28 22:14           ` Kevin O'Connor
2011-08-28 22:14             ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin O'Connor
2011-08-29  5:32             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2011-08-29  5:32               ` [Qemu-devel] HPET configuration in Seabios Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 10:25               ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 10:25                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 11:00                 ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 11:00                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 11:05                   ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 11:05                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 11:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 11:11                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2011-08-29 11:12                     ` Jan Kiszka
2011-08-29 11:12                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka

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