Re: [Xen-users] Re: Xen document day (Oct 12 or 26)

[Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@xen.org>]

Note that mediawiki allows pages to be in several categories. Check out 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Categories

>  I think the main issues (mess) with the old wiki were:
>  - not being able to contact someone if information is incorrect / outdated
We would need category and page owners for this. I will have to think about this.

>  - noone looking into pages that had become outdated
Agreed. I think we also faced the issue that we didn't know what was outdated. That makes fixing it a harder problem

>  - not looking for pages that might be outdated
Categories and attention boxes should help

>  - most of the pages being immutable so you couldn't even fix stuff.
That is a MoinMoin feature (which should be resolved with MediaWiki). The MoinMoin spamming protection is extremely primitive.

>  So if we limit edit rights to certain user groups that is not a
>  problem, as long as the groups are big enough to maintain the
>  categories.
MediaWiki has quite fine grained user control. I will have to think about how to set this up, but my gut feel is we should have:
- Admins
- Editors (get notified when people make changes, owners of categories)
- Authors (anybody with an account)

>  Also it might be helpful to use a release mechanism - if any
>  registered user can create pages, but they stay invisible until
>  approval then this would save a lot of time for the regular authors
>  and still keep up quality. (Thats working really well in my
>  experience)
I think that is not advisable. I rather go for the WikiPedia approach, where wrong changes are reverted by editors. I think we should try with an open model and make it more restrictive it the open model doesn't work

Regards
Lars


On 30/10/2011 20:58, Florian Heigl wrote:
> Hi Lars,
>
> 2011/10/28 Lars Kurth<lars.kurth@xen.org>:
>> There may be a few more. Will need to work on these a little more. It may
>> also mean that the MediWiki instance is set up that pages must have a
>> category and that only a subset of users can create new ones. Otherwise we
>> get into the same mess again.
> I think the main issues (mess) with the old wiki were:
> - not being able to contact someone if information is incorrect / outdated
> - noone looking into pages that had become outdated
> - not looking for pages that might be outdated
> - most of the pages being immutable so you couldn't even fix stuff.
>
> So if we limit edit rights to certain user groups that is not a
> problem, as long as the groups are big enough to maintain the
> categories.
> Also it might be helpful to use a release mechanism - if any
> registered user can create pages, but they stay invisible until
> approval then this would save a lot of time for the regular authors
> and still keep up quality. (Thats working really well in my
> experience)
>
> Greetings
> Florian