From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
To: Fredrik Lingvall <fredrik.lingvall@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Hauppauge HVR-930C problems
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:55:20 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EDF7048.2030304@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDF6AB8.5050201@gmail.com>
On 07-12-2011 11:31, Fredrik Lingvall wrote:
> On 12/07/11 13:56, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> On 02-12-2011 17:41, Fredrik Lingvall wrote:
>>> Hi ,
>>>
>>> I noticed that HVR 930C support was added 21-11-2011.
>>>
>>> I have build the new driver and installed the firmware but I'm struggling to get it working.
>>
>>> 4) DVB scanning
>>>
>>> # w_scan -c NO -f c
>>
>> ...
>>
>>> 602000: sr6900 (time: 10:32) (time: 10:33) signal ok:
>>> QAM_256 f = 602000 kHz S6900C999
>>
>> This means that it detected a QAM_256 carrier, at 602000 kHz, with 6.900 Kbauds symbol rate.
>>
>>> start_filter:1415: ERROR: ioctl DMX_SET_FILTER failed: 28 No space left on device
>>
>> -ENOSPC error is generally associated with the lack of USB bandwidth support.
>> This means that the USB bus doesn't have enough free slots for the traffic
>> required in order to support your stream.
>>
>> It generally means that your device is connected into a USB 1.1 hub or port.
>> There are some new USB interfaces that are known to have troubles with the
>> Linux USB 2.0 implementation, as they internally use some USB hubs.
>> It could be your case, as the driver detects it on an USB 2.0 port:
>>
>>> [90072.073832] em28xx: New device WinTV HVR-930C @ 480 Mbps (2040:1605, interface 0, class 0)
>>
>> Please do a:
>>
>> # mount usbfs /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs
>> $ cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
>>
>> It should see you something like:
>>
>> T: Bus=08 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 29/900 us ( 3%), #Int= 2, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.2
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=08 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=2101 ProdID=020f Rev= 0.01
>> C:* #Ifs= 2 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=500mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
>> I:* If#= 1 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usbhid
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=10ms
>>
>> T: Bus=07 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.1
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=06 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.0
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=05 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1a.2
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=04 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1a.1
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=03 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2
>> B: Alloc= 0/900 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0001 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 uhci_hcd
>> S: Product=UHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1a.0
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 2 Ivl=255ms
>>
>> T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
>> B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0002 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 ehci_hcd
>> S: Product=EHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.7
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl=256ms
>>
>> T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
>> B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0002 Rev= 3.01
>> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.1.1-2.fc16.x86_64 ehci_hcd
>> S: Product=EHCI Host Controller
>> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1a.7
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl=256ms
>>
>> T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=05 Cnt=01 Dev#= 6 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
>> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
>> P: Vendor=2040 ProdID=1605 Rev= 1.00
>> S: Product=WinTV HVR-930C
>> S: SerialNumber=4034508088
>> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA
>> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 2 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=1440 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 3 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2048 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 4 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2304 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 5 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2688 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 6 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2880 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>> I: If#= 0 Alt= 7 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
>> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
>> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=3072 Ivl=125us
>> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
>> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>>
>> In the above example, my HVR-930C is connected to Bus=01. The available
>> bandwidth at the USB bus is given by:
>>
>> T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
>> B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
>>
>> (in the above example, device is not used)
>>
>> Tuning into a channel spends 19% of the USB bandwidth (e. g. 152
>> ISOC slots), as shown at:
>>
>> T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
>> B: Alloc=152/800 us (19%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 5
>>
>> The same bandwidth is required by w_scan/scan.
>>
>> You can also try to put your device on another bus and see if this would
>> fix the issue.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Mauro
>
> Mauro,
>
> This was interesting information! Here's the output while I'm doing a w_scan:
>
> lin-tv ~ # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices | grep -50 "Bus=02"
>
> <snip>
>
> T: Bus=02 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=480 MxCh= 6
> B: Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%), #Int= 0, #Iso= 0
> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
> P: Vendor=1d6b ProdID=0002 Rev= 3.02
> S: Manufacturer=Linux 3.2.0-rc3+ ehci_hcd
> S: Product=EHCI Host Controller
> S: SerialNumber=0000:00:1d.7
> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=e0 MxPwr= 0mA
> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl=256ms
>
> T: Bus=02 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=02 Cnt=01 Dev#= 8 Spd=480 MxCh= 0
> D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs= 1
> P: Vendor=2040 ProdID=1605 Rev= 1.00
> S: Product=WinTV HVR-930C
> S: SerialNumber=4034210708
> C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=80 MxPwr=500mA
> I:* If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 0 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 2 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=1440 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 3 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2048 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 4 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2304 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 5 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2688 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 6 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=2880 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
> I: If#= 0 Alt= 7 #EPs= 4 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=ff Driver=em28xx
> E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 1 Ivl=128ms
> E: Ad=82(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS=3072 Ivl=125us
> E: Ad=83(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 196 Ivl=1ms
> E: Ad=84(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 940 Ivl=125us
>
> <snip>
>
> Bus 2 doesn't seem to do anything [Alloc= 0/800 us ( 0%)] while I'm scanning!?
Scanning envolves 2 different things:
1) tuning and locking into a channel;
2) streaming and filtering, in order to seek for program tables
inside the MPEG-TS.
Step 1 uses USB control messages.
Only at step 2, the device will use the USB ISOC packets. The USB core will
see if is there enough bandwidth to reserve for ISOC transfers on that time
(based on other traffic data), and submit the URB's (or return -ENOSPC otherwise).
>
> BTW: I'm running Gentoo x86_64 (amd64) on a Dell M2400 laptop with an SSD disk.
>
> Other hardware connected is a 200 GB disk using the eSata slot, a 1TB WD disk connected using another USB slot, a RME Multiface II soundcard using the expresscard slot.
The external USB disk may be interfering, if it is also at bus 2.
Also, some laptops use USB for some internal components like wireless.
Please remove all other USB devices, disable wireless (if your device is USB)
and try again.
Regards,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-07 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-02 19:41 Hauppauge HVR-930C problems Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-02 19:45 ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-05 23:37 ` Eddi De Pieri
2011-12-06 8:38 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-07 12:22 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-07 12:56 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-07 13:31 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-07 13:55 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2011-12-07 14:25 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-07 14:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-08 8:31 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-08 15:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-10 13:43 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-10 16:02 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-17 17:42 ` Fredrik Lingvall
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2011-12-15 8:04 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-15 9:54 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
[not found] ` <CALJK-QjxDpC8Y_gPXeAJaT2si_pRREiuTW=T8CWSTxGprRhfkg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-16 8:20 ` Fredrik Lingvall
[not found] ` <CALJK-Qhpk7NtSezrft_6+4FZ7Y35k=41xrc6ebxf2DzEH6KCWw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <4EECB2C2.8050701@gmail.com>
2011-12-17 19:09 ` Mihai Dobrescu
[not found] ` <4EECE392.5080000@gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CALJK-QjChFbX7NH0qNhvaz=Hp8JfKENJMsLOsETiYO9ZyV_BOg@mail.gmail.com>
2011-12-17 19:59 ` Mihai Dobrescu
2011-12-18 9:20 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2011-12-25 15:56 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2012-01-10 14:42 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2012-01-10 19:30 ` Mihai Dobrescu
2012-01-10 19:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-10 20:23 ` Mihai Dobrescu
2012-01-10 20:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-11 5:28 ` Mihai Dobrescu
2012-01-11 10:53 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-01-11 12:24 ` Fredrik Lingvall
2012-01-11 9:21 ` Fredrik Lingvall
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