Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

[Eugeni Dodonov]

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Hi,

We’d like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on performance
and stability improvements in the Intel Linux Graphics stack.

Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html for the recommended
stack, list of new features and known issues.

I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and testers
for helping us to improve the drivers. Thanks a lot for all your work, help
and support!

And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing bugs
following the http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.htmlguidelines.

Thanks,
Eugeni Dodonov
Intel Open Source Technology Center

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Re: Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

[Alan W. Irwin]

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On 2011-12-05 23:03-0200 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> We’d like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on performance and stability improvements in the Intel Linux Graphics
> stack.
>  
> Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html for the recommended stack, list of new features and known issues.
> 
> I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and testers for helping us to improve the drivers. Thanks a lot for all
> your work, help and support!
> 
> And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing bugs following the
> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.html guidelines.
> 
> Thanks,
> Eugeni Dodonov
> Intel Open Source Technology Center

Hi Eugeni:

My primary interest in Intel graphics is I just want something that is
completely stable for a mostly 2D desktop with the ability to play
some low-end 3D games.  Thus, I have been reasonably content with what
I get from Debian stable for my g33 graphics hardware, but I would
like to upgrade to Debian testing for a number of reasons.  However,
what's been holding me back from that upgrade is concern that g33 has
not been validated for a while by the Intel team (e.g., no mention of
g33 for your first quarterly release this year).

Therefore, I was very glad to see g33 mentioned as one of the
validated platforms both for this release and also for the 3rd
quarterly release this year so my hopes that g33 will work with no big
issues for Debian testing are much higher than they were. However,
testing results for only some (Pineview 32-bit, and
Sandybridge/Ivybridge for 64-bit) of your validated platforms are
linked at the above URL.  Is there a link you can give me for the g33
test results (preferably 64 bit)?

Alan
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Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca).

Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state
implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time
Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting
software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project
(unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net);
and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net).
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Re: Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

[Jin, Gordon]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: intel-gfx-bounces+gordon.jin=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org
> [mailto:intel-gfx-bounces+gordon.jin=intel.com@lists.freedesktop.org] On
> Behalf Of Alan W. Irwin
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 11:30 AM
> To: Eugeni Dodonov
> Cc: intel-gfx
> Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] Intel 2011Q4 graphics package
> 
> On 2011-12-05 23:03-0200 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > We’d like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on
> performance and stability improvements in the Intel Linux Graphics
> > stack.
> >
> > Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html for the
> recommended stack, list of new features and known issues.
> >
> > I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and testers
> for helping us to improve the drivers. Thanks a lot for all
> > your work, help and support!
> >
> > And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing bugs
> following the
> > http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.html guidelines.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eugeni Dodonov
> > Intel Open Source Technology Center
> 
> Hi Eugeni:
> 
> My primary interest in Intel graphics is I just want something that is
> completely stable for a mostly 2D desktop with the ability to play
> some low-end 3D games.  Thus, I have been reasonably content with what
> I get from Debian stable for my g33 graphics hardware, but I would
> like to upgrade to Debian testing for a number of reasons.  However,
> what's been holding me back from that upgrade is concern that g33 has
> not been validated for a while by the Intel team (e.g., no mention of
> g33 for your first quarterly release this year).
> 
> Therefore, I was very glad to see g33 mentioned as one of the
> validated platforms both for this release and also for the 3rd
> quarterly release this year so my hopes that g33 will work with no big
> issues for Debian testing are much higher than they were. However,
> testing results for only some (Pineview 32-bit, and
> Sandybridge/Ivybridge for 64-bit) of your validated platforms are
> linked at the above URL.  Is there a link you can give me for the g33
> test results (preferably 64 bit)?

Sorry G33 is not our focus for validation. We only perform limited testing (mostly on kernel) on it and expect it similar to Pineview on 2D and 3D.

Please understand we'll have to select only few platforms for full validation. Our focus at this point is Pineview (the latest platform for i915/gen3), Sandy Bridge (the latest platform for i965/gen6), and Ivy Bridge (the next platform).

But you and other community testers are always welcome to file bugs for other platforms. I appreciate that and consider it an important supplement for my team's testing.

Thanks
Gordon
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Re: Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

[Eugeni Dodonov]

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2011/12/6 Alan W. Irwin <irwin@beluga.phys.uvic.ca>

> On 2011-12-05 23:03-0200 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>>
>> We’d like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on
>> performance and stability improvements in the Intel Linux Graphics
>> stack.
>>
>> Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/**2011Q4.html<http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html>for the recommended stack, list of new features and known issues.
>>
>> I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and
>> testers for helping us to improve the drivers. Thanks a lot for all
>> your work, help and support!
>>
>> And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing
>> bugs following the
>> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/**how_to_report_bug.html<http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.html>guidelines.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Eugeni Dodonov
>> Intel Open Source Technology Center
>>
>
> Hi Eugeni:
>
> My primary interest in Intel graphics is I just want something that is
> completely stable for a mostly 2D desktop with the ability to play
> some low-end 3D games.  Thus, I have been reasonably content with what
> I get from Debian stable for my g33 graphics hardware, but I would
> like to upgrade to Debian testing for a number of reasons.  However,
> what's been holding me back from that upgrade is concern that g33 has
> not been validated for a while by the Intel team (e.g., no mention of
> g33 for your first quarterly release this year).
>
> Therefore, I was very glad to see g33 mentioned as one of the
> validated platforms both for this release and also for the 3rd
> quarterly release this year so my hopes that g33 will work with no big
> issues for Debian testing are much higher than they were. However,
> testing results for only some (Pineview 32-bit, and
> Sandybridge/Ivybridge for 64-bit) of your validated platforms are
> linked at the above URL.  Is there a link you can give me for the g33
> test results (preferably 64 bit)?
>

Hi Alan,

for g33, it is not being the main focus of the release validation and
testing lately, so it receives limited validation, checking for regressions
mostly.

However, for all the kernel/mesa/drm/2d releases, the expectation is for it
to work in a "no regressions" mode. It should be similar to pineview for
most test cases and workloads.

Having said that, we do intend to provide a good support for it. So if you
observe any new issues or bugs which are not previously filled in our
bugzilla, please, let us know. Even if we do not focus on full validation
and testing for it as part of the stack release, we still do intend to have
a good level of functionality for it. So if there are stability or
regression issues, or its functionality under Debian testing is somehow
worse than with Debian stable, we'd like to know about it.

Thanks!

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Re: Intel 2011Q4 graphics package

[Alan W. Irwin]

On 2011-12-06 09:14-0200 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:

> 2011/12/6 Alan W. Irwin <irwin@beluga.phys.uvic.ca>
>       On 2011-12-05 23:03-0200 Eugeni Dodonov wrote:
>
>             Hi,
>              
>             We’d like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on performance and stability improvements in the
>             Intel Linux Graphics
>             stack.
>              
>             Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html for the recommended stack, list of new features and
>             known issues.
>
>             I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and testers for helping us to improve the
>             drivers. Thanks a lot for all
>             your work, help and support!
>
>             And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing bugs following the
>             http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.html guidelines.
>
>             Thanks,
>             Eugeni Dodonov
>             Intel Open Source Technology Center
> 
> 
> Hi Eugeni:
> 
> My primary interest in Intel graphics is I just want something that is
> completely stable for a mostly 2D desktop with the ability to play
> some low-end 3D games.  Thus, I have been reasonably content with what
> I get from Debian stable for my g33 graphics hardware, but I would
> like to upgrade to Debian testing for a number of reasons.  However,
> what's been holding me back from that upgrade is concern that g33 has
> not been validated for a while by the Intel team (e.g., no mention of
> g33 for your first quarterly release this year).
> 
> Therefore, I was very glad to see g33 mentioned as one of the
> validated platforms both for this release and also for the 3rd
> quarterly release this year so my hopes that g33 will work with no big
> issues for Debian testing are much higher than they were. However,
> testing results for only some (Pineview 32-bit, and
> Sandybridge/Ivybridge for 64-bit) of your validated platforms are
> linked at the above URL.  Is there a link you can give me for the g33
> test results (preferably 64 bit)?
> 
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> for g33, it is not being the main focus of the release validation and testing lately, so it receives limited validation, checking for
> regressions mostly.
> 
> However, for all the kernel/mesa/drm/2d releases, the expectation is for it to work in a "no regressions" mode. It should be similar to
> pineview for most test cases and workloads.
> 
> Having said that, we do intend to provide a good support for it. So if you observe any new issues or bugs which are not previously
> filled in our bugzilla, please, let us know. Even if we do not focus on full validation and testing for it as part of the stack
> release, we still do intend to have a good level of functionality for it. So if there are stability or regression issues, or its
> functionality under Debian testing is somehow worse than with Debian stable, we'd like to know about it.
>

Thanks to you and Gordon for your up-front replies.  I am disappointed
you currently have such limited resources for release validation, and
for your Linux customer's sake I hope you can convince Intel to
give you some additional limited resources (man-hours and hardware) to make
that validation effort more comprehensive.  After all, the Intel
X stack is being constantly developed to handle new hardware and fix
bugs for old hardware, and without release testing for a wider variety
of hardware some regressions are inevitably going to creep in for
hardware that currently has limited release validation or no release
validation at all.  Thus, the inevitable result of your currently
limited resources for release validation is concerned Linux customers
like me who are forced to be extremely cautious about software
"upgrades".  That is a characteristic historically associated with
Windows users, and we don't want that to become the norm for Linux
users as well!

That said, I will try to help you out where I can. This g33 computer
is used by two people simultaneously in a home office (one directly
and one via an X terminal) as a production box so it will take a while
before we can find a convenient time to upgrade to Debian testing, but
when we do so (probably one or two months from now) I will get back to
you with an upgrade report (whether positive or negative) for the g33
graphics of that principal box.  If all goes well for that upgrade, we
also plan to upgrade the nettop computer we use for the X-terminal
from Debian stable to Debian testing and give you a similar upgrade
report for the 945GM/GMS/GME graphics of that system which are
somewhat older than the g33 graphics of our principal box.

Alan
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Astronomical research affiliation with Department of Physics and Astronomy,
University of Victoria (astrowww.phys.uvic.ca).

Programming affiliations with the FreeEOS equation-of-state
implementation for stellar interiors (freeeos.sf.net); the Time
Ephemerides project (timeephem.sf.net); PLplot scientific plotting
software package (plplot.sf.net); the libLASi project
(unifont.org/lasi); the Loads of Linux Links project (loll.sf.net);
and the Linux Brochure Project (lbproject.sf.net).
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[BUG] Minecraft graphics issues

[Jonas Jelten]

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Hi!

What about adding Minecraft to the officially tested games list for the
released graphics package?
It's one of the most played games on Linux i think, and a lot of users
are experiencing graphical problems that don't occur in windows or mac.

Two screenshots of my Minecraft graphics issue:
http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/5900nd4k/20111206_08.34.06.png
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/2pl3w1ky/20111206_08.39.38.png

The color of the error equals the skybox color.
After taking the screenshot, the errors are gone for ~10 seconds and FPS
increase noticeably. Then it comes back and looks awful again.
The error occures in fullscreen and windowed mode.

Maybe this is the relevant bug in launchpad:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/mesa/+bug/829086

Another thing is that my Minecraft on view distance short has about
20-30 fps, a friend's Macbook Pro (core i5-2420M) renders Minecraft at
40-50 fps with view distance far. (We have both the exactly same
graphics chip (HD3000) and my CPU is even better)

My system:
core i5-2520M with HD3000 IGP
8GB RAM (how much graphics memory is shared then?)
1366x786 LVDS IPS display


Software:
linux 3.1.4-1
mesa 7.11.2-1
xf86-video-intel 2.17.0-2
libdrm 2.4.27-1
libva 1.0.15-1
libva-driver-intel 1.0.15-1
Minecraft 1.0.0


Jonas Jelten

On 12/06/2011 02:03 AM, Eugeni Dodonov wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> We'd like to announce Intel 2011Q4 graphics package, focused on
> performance and stability improvements in the Intel Linux Graphics stack.
>  
> Please check http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2011Q4.html for the
> recommended stack, list of new features and known issues.
>
> I'd also like to thank all the developers, community, our users and
> testers for helping us to improve the drivers. Thanks a lot for all
> your work, help and support!
>
> And as usual, if you find any new issues, please let as know by filing
> bugs following the
> http://intellinuxgraphics.org/how_to_report_bug.html guidelines.
>
> Thanks,
> Eugeni Dodonov
> Intel Open Source Technology Center
>
>
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Re: [BUG] Minecraft graphics issues

[Eugeni Dodonov]

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On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 16:15, Jonas Jelten <jelten@in.tum.de> wrote:

>  Hi!
>
> What about adding Minecraft to the officially tested games list for the
> released graphics package?
> It's one of the most played games on Linux i think, and a lot of users are
> experiencing graphical problems that don't occur in windows or mac.
>
> Two screenshots of my Minecraft graphics issue:
> http://img7.imagebanana.com/img/5900nd4k/20111206_08.34.06.png
> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/2pl3w1ky/20111206_08.39.38.png
>

Could you try the workaround at
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39730#c48 for this problem?

-- 
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<http://eugeni.dodonov.net/>

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