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From: "Cousson, Benoit" <b-cousson@ti.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@nvidia.com>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring@calxeda.com>,
	Thomas Abraham <thomas.abraham@linaro.org>,
	linux-omap <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:50:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F2918F6.9040100@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120131230928.GA8394@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On 2/1/2012 12:09 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06:02AM -0700, Grant Likely wrote:
>> This makes the assumption that dma specifiers will only ever be 1
>> cell.  I think to be generally useful, the full dma specifier needs to
>> be either handed to the dma controller to get a cookie or passed back
>> to the caller in its entirety.
>
> More to the point, who says that the DMA specifier is even an integer?
> When people are using DMA engines, it (probably) isn't an integer at
> all.  Several platforms I know of use strings for this.
>
> Some platforms can even select between two or more DMA engines for
> handling the same peripheral - I believe Samsung do this depending
> on their individual workloads.
>
> However, the opaque DMA engine API for requesting a channel doesn't
> lend itself well to DT, as the match data and match function are
> entirely left to the individual DMA engine driver and/or platform
> itself.
>
> As far as creating another linear number space for DMA stuff, I'd
> really suggest against that - you're going to need some additional
> code in place to manage that numberspace.  If you at least use a two-
> paid cookie, eg 'dma controller phandle + request signal' then that
> makes all the stuff we're starting to see with the IRQ subsystem,
> IRQ domains etc become completely unnecessary.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is ignore the flat number space, and go
> straight to some kind of 'dma domains' solution from the start.

Fully agree, and this is exactly the idea of this DMA binding: First 
argument is always a DMA controller phandle and then you can add 0, 1 or 
more cells to define extra specifiers dependent of the DMA controller 
driver expectation. The one cell Grant was referring was just the extra 
specifier that is needed for a simple DMA engine like the SDMA we have 
inside OMAP. But the whole idea is to have a flexible enough mechanism 
to allow any kind of specifier.

No more global linear number space like for IRQ!

Regards,
Benoit




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From: b-cousson@ti.com (Cousson, Benoit)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:50:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F2918F6.9040100@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120131230928.GA8394@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Hi Russell,

On 2/1/2012 12:09 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:06:02AM -0700, Grant Likely wrote:
>> This makes the assumption that dma specifiers will only ever be 1
>> cell.  I think to be generally useful, the full dma specifier needs to
>> be either handed to the dma controller to get a cookie or passed back
>> to the caller in its entirety.
>
> More to the point, who says that the DMA specifier is even an integer?
> When people are using DMA engines, it (probably) isn't an integer at
> all.  Several platforms I know of use strings for this.
>
> Some platforms can even select between two or more DMA engines for
> handling the same peripheral - I believe Samsung do this depending
> on their individual workloads.
>
> However, the opaque DMA engine API for requesting a channel doesn't
> lend itself well to DT, as the match data and match function are
> entirely left to the individual DMA engine driver and/or platform
> itself.
>
> As far as creating another linear number space for DMA stuff, I'd
> really suggest against that - you're going to need some additional
> code in place to manage that numberspace.  If you at least use a two-
> paid cookie, eg 'dma controller phandle + request signal' then that
> makes all the stuff we're starting to see with the IRQ subsystem,
> IRQ domains etc become completely unnecessary.
>
> I guess what I'm saying is ignore the flat number space, and go
> straight to some kind of 'dma domains' solution from the start.

Fully agree, and this is exactly the idea of this DMA binding: First 
argument is always a DMA controller phandle and then you can add 0, 1 or 
more cells to define extra specifiers dependent of the DMA controller 
driver expectation. The one cell Grant was referring was just the extra 
specifier that is needed for a simple DMA engine like the SDMA we have 
inside OMAP. But the whole idea is to have a flexible enough mechanism 
to allow any kind of specifier.

No more global linear number space like for IRQ!

Regards,
Benoit

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-01 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-27 17:29 [RFC PATCH 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-27 17:29 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-27 18:13 ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 18:13   ` Stephen Warren
2012-01-27 20:36   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-27 20:36     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-28 18:12     ` Grant Likely
2012-01-28 18:12       ` Grant Likely
2012-01-28 18:06 ` Grant Likely
2012-01-28 18:06   ` Grant Likely
2012-01-31 21:26   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-01-31 21:26     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-02  4:52     ` Grant Likely
2012-02-02  4:52       ` Grant Likely
2012-01-31 23:09   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-01-31 23:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-01 10:50     ` Cousson, Benoit [this message]
2012-02-01 10:50       ` Cousson, Benoit
     [not found]       ` <4F2918F6.9040100-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02  8:45         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-02-02  8:45           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20120202084539.GC1275-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02  8:54             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-02  8:54               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-22 10:59 ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-22 10:59   ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-23 10:03   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-23 10:03     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-23 15:51     ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-23 15:51       ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-23 15:57       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-23 15:57         ` Cousson, Benoit
     [not found]         ` <4F4661DE.90704-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-27 13:09           ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-27 13:09             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-27 14:22             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-27 14:22               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-02-27 17:28               ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-27 17:28                 ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-29 14:54 ` [RFC PATCH] of: DMA helpers: manage generic requests specification Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-29 14:54   ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-02-29 20:54   ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-29 20:54     ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 13:14     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 13:14       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 18:30       ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 18:30         ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 19:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-05 19:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-05 10:55   ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 10:55     ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-05 15:36   ` Grant Likely
2012-03-05 15:36     ` Grant Likely
2012-03-14 17:47     ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-14 17:47       ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-14 18:16       ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-14 18:16         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <4F22DEF2.5000807-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15  8:38   ` [PATCH] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-15  8:38     ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-15  9:22     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15  9:22       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15  9:26       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-15  9:26         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-15 10:09         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 10:09           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17  9:42         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-17  9:42           ` Grant Likely
2012-03-17 16:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-17 16:03             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18  9:08             ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18  9:08               ` Grant Likely
2012-03-15 10:27       ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-15 10:27         ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-17 10:47         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-17 10:47           ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18  9:22           ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-18  9:22             ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-18 15:10             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 15:10               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 18:22             ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 18:22               ` Grant Likely
2012-03-19 13:02           ` Mark Brown
2012-03-19 13:02             ` Mark Brown
2012-03-19 15:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:01               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:07               ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-19 15:07                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-19 15:45                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:45                   ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201203191545.40933.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-19 16:54                     ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-19 16:54                       ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-15 16:30       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 16:30         ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 19:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-15 19:57           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]           ` <20120315195753.GA2842-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-15 20:41             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 20:41               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-15 21:39               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 21:39                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-15 21:55                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-15 21:55                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-16  9:56                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16  9:56                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 14:02                 ` Matt Porter
2012-03-20 14:02                   ` Matt Porter
2012-03-15 23:45           ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-15 23:45             ` Nicolas Pitre
2012-03-16 10:03     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 10:03       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 11:19       ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 11:19         ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 12:04         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 12:04           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-16 13:28           ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 13:28             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-16 13:36             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-16 13:36               ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-17  9:40     ` Grant Likely
2012-03-17  9:40       ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 20:13       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 20:13         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 20:44         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 20:44           ` Grant Likely
2012-03-18 21:58           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 21:58             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 22:12             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-18 22:12               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 13:37         ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 13:37           ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 15:20           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 15:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 15:58             ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 15:58               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 13:30       ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 13:30         ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 14:06         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 14:06           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 15:33           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 15:33             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-03-19 16:11             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 16:11               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-19 18:06               ` Jassi Brar
2012-03-19 18:06                 ` Jassi Brar
2012-03-19 16:31             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 16:31               ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-19 17:49               ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 17:49                 ` Cousson, Benoit
2012-03-19 14:45         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-19 14:45           ` Grant Likely
2012-03-20 14:54           ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 14:54             ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13     ` [PATCH v2 1/2] " Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13       ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13       ` [PATCH 2/2] of: selftest/dma: Add selftest for new DT DMA request helpers Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:13         ` Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 14:16         ` Grant Likely
2012-03-20 14:16           ` Grant Likely
2012-03-20 10:17       ` [PATCH] of: dma/fixup Nicolas Ferre
2012-03-20 10:17         ` Nicolas Ferre
     [not found]       ` <6b5dc1fadfd03a48093338b6981c0a7ae7662212.1332237596.git.nicolas.ferre-AIFe0yeh4nAAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-20 13:03         ` [PATCH v2 1/2] of: Add generic device tree DMA helpers Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 13:03           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-20 15:38       ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-20 15:38         ` Stephen Warren

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