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From: Roberto Sassu <roberto.sassu@polito.it>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>,
	initramfs@vger.kernel.org, systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-ima-user@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri <barbieri@profusion.mobi>,
	harald@redhat.com, ramunno@polito.it
Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-user] [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] main: added support for loading IMA custom policies
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:58:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F43A2F9.2030901@polito.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329829311.2186.6.camel@falcor>

On 02/21/2012 02:01 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 11:05 +0100, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>
>> Ok. this should be not a problem because all errors (IMA support not
>> included in the kernel, policy file access denied, ...) are ignored
>> except for the mmap() failure.
>
> Hi Roberto, IMA should never return an error, only IMA-appraisal should
> enforce file integrity.  Can you please show me or send a patch?
>

Hi Mimi

do you intend a patch to reintroduce the 'ima=' kernel parameter for
enabling/disabling IMA? If so, i have not actually thought about this
but it should be not difficult to implement. Probably we can support
these modes:

- disabled: IMA returns immediately to the system call;
- measure_only: IMA performs only measurements and does not return any
   error to the system call;
- appraise_permissive: IMA stores measurements in the files extended
   attribute and in the measurements list but does not return any error
   to the system call even if the integrity check fails;
- appraise_enforce: IMA does the same as the previous mode but returns
   an error to the system call if the integrity check fails.

Further, we can have a simple user-space package which will contain the
documentation about how to write a policy (so that it will be more
easy to find in respect to the whole kernel documentation) and a tool
that will fix/verify the measurements stored in the files extended
attribute.

Having a separate user-space package will simplify the interaction for
users with the IMA kernel-space portion and will allow to determine
whether the IMA support should be enabled in Systemd.

Thanks

Roberto Sassu


> thanks,
>
> Mimi
>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-21 13:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-15 13:23 [PATCH 1/2] systemd: mount the securityfs filesystem at early stage Roberto Sassu
2012-02-15 13:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] main: added support for loading IMA custom policies Roberto Sassu
     [not found]   ` <1329312229-11856-2-git-send-email-roberto.sassu-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-15 14:30     ` [systemd-devel] " Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
2012-02-15 16:26       ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]         ` <4F3BDCAA.7040001-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-15 16:55           ` [systemd-devel] " Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
     [not found]             ` <CAPdpN3C0xDeVBrbDxesPdEV+owf-q_wxUHTmr4YDCHw=NgPV1Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-15 17:12               ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]                 ` <4F3BE763.9060704-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16  4:56                   ` [Linux-ima-user] " Michael Cassaniti
2012-02-16 13:19                     ` Mimi Zohar
2012-02-16 13:38                     ` Roberto Sassu
2012-02-16 14:30                       ` Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
     [not found]                         ` <CAPdpN3AAwJ6s-fOgTCV4h4OCKCw3RhEav56LJaUXWVpuf4Jowg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 14:35                           ` Roberto Sassu
2012-02-16 21:50                             ` Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
2012-02-20 17:24                               ` [Linux-ima-user] " Lennart Poettering
2012-02-20 19:06                                 ` [systemd-devel] " Roberto Sassu
2012-02-20 19:18                                   ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]                                     ` <20120220191804.GD360-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 10:05                                       ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]                                         ` <4F436C7A.9020206-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 13:01                                           ` [Linux-ima-user] [systemd-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2012-02-21 13:58                                             ` Roberto Sassu [this message]
2012-02-21 16:15                                               ` Mimi Zohar
2012-02-21 17:32                                                 ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]                                                   ` <4F43D532.7070006-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 17:54                                                     ` Mimi Zohar
2012-02-21 17:56                                                   ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]                                                     ` <CAPXgP10zCVgj4gDTzkJ1+XqKSHhjrCHwkUazJ8caaeMF2j+mMg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 18:07                                                       ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]                                                         ` <4F43DD49.2040202-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 19:06                                                           ` Kay Sievers
2012-02-21 14:07                                           ` [systemd-devel] [Linux-ima-user] " Colin Guthrie
2012-02-21 14:32                                             ` Kay Sievers
     [not found]                                               ` <CAPXgP13c1B80u14E4FrhZEJ89NDvDP--ciWikz0j+m4En6zPRQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-21 16:14                                                 ` Mimi Zohar
2012-02-21 18:25                                                   ` Roberto Sassu
2012-02-21 12:25                                       ` [Linux-ima-user] [systemd-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2012-02-20 17:21                           ` [systemd-devel] [Linux-ima-user] " Lennart Poettering
     [not found]                     ` <4F3C8C6F.4010708-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 17:18                       ` Lennart Poettering
2012-02-20 17:14                 ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2012-02-20 18:36                   ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]                     ` <4F4292A4.2030402-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 19:07                       ` Lennart Poettering
2012-02-21  9:17                         ` Roberto Sassu
2012-02-20 17:13           ` Lennart Poettering
2012-02-20 17:12     ` Lennart Poettering
2012-02-20 18:23       ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found]         ` <4F428FB0.3000200-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 18:52           ` Lennart Poettering
     [not found]             ` <20120220185236.GB360-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 19:11               ` Roberto Sassu
     [not found] ` <1329312229-11856-1-git-send-email-roberto.sassu-8RLafaVCWuNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 17:04   ` [systemd-devel] [PATCH 1/2] systemd: mount the securityfs filesystem at early stage Lennart Poettering
     [not found]     ` <20120220170436.GA26356-kS5D54t9nk0aINubkmmoJbNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-20 18:02       ` Roberto Sassu

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