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From: Ryan Mallon <rmallon-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Sascha Hauer <s.hauer-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Thierry Reding
	<thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Matthias Kaehlcke
	<matthias-RprLehDfhQ3k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Kurt Van Dijck <kurt.van.dijck-/BeEPy95v10@public.gmane.org>,
	Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Grant Likely
	<grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Colin Cross <ccross-z5hGa2qSFaRBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie-Fm38FmjxZ/leoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Brown
	<broonie-yzvPICuk2AATkU/dhu1WVueM+bqZidxxQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>,
	Mitch Bradley <wmb-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Eric Miao <eric.y.miao-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Lars-Peter Clausen <lars-Qo5EllUWu/uELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 03/10] of: Add PWM support.
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:08:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4969DA.2090508@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120225123357.GU3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>

On 25/02/12 23:33, Sascha Hauer wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 04:58:31PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 24 February 2012, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> * Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 23 February 2012, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>> * Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>>>> * Why not include the pwm_request() call in this and return the
>>>>>>   pwm_device directly? You said that you want to get rid of the
>>>>>>   pwm_id eventually, which is a good idea, but this interface still
>>>>>>   forces one to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, that sounds sensible. I propose to rename the function to something like
>>>>> of_request_pwm().
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good.
>>
>> On second thought, I would actually prefer starting the name with pwm_ and
>> making it independent of device tree. There might be other ways how to
>> find the pwm_device from a struct device in the future, but it should always
>> be possible using a device together with a string and/or numeric identifier,
>> much in the same way that we can get a resource from a platform_device.
>>
>> Ideally, there would be a common theme behind finding a memory region,
>> irq, gpio pin, clock, regulator, dma-channel and pwm or anything else
>> that requires a link between two device nodes.
>>
>>>>> It would of course need an additional parameter (name) to
>>>>> forward to pwm_request().
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily, it could use the dev_name(device) or the name
>>>> of the property, or a combination of the two.
>>>
>>> The problem with that is that usually the device would be named something
>>> generic like "pwm", while in case where the PWM is used for the backlight
>>> it makes sense to label the PWM device "backlight".
>>>
>>> Looking at debugfs and seeing an entry "backlight" is much more straight-
>>> forward than "pwm.0". I mean "pwm.0" doesn't carry any useful information
>>> really, does it?
>>
>> But the device name would be from the device using the pwm, not the
>> pwm controller, so it should be something more helpful, no?
>>
>>>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(of_get_named_pwm);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was brought up at some point that it might be nice to allow non-GPL
>>>>> drivers to use the PWM framework as well. I don't remember any discussion
>>>>> resulting from the comment. Perhaps we should have that discussion now and
>>>>> decide whether or not we want to keep it GPL-only or not.
>>>>
>>>> I would definitely use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL for all new code unless it
>>>> replaces an earlier interface that was available as EXPORT_SYMBOL.
>>>
>>> I just grepped the code and noticed this:
>>>
>>> 	$ $ git grep -n 'EXPORT_SYMBOL.*(pwm_request)'
>>> 	arch/arm/mach-vt8500/pwm.c:139:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/arm/plat-mxc/pwm.c:183:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/arm/plat-samsung/pwm.c:83:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/unicore32/kernel/pwm.c:132:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/mfd/twl6030-pwm.c:156:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/misc/ab8500-pwm.c:108:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/pwm/core.c:262:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pwm_request);
>>>
>>> It seems like the legacy PWM API used to be non-GPL. Should I switch it back?
>>> Also does it make sense to have something like of_request_pwm() GPL when the
>>> rest of the API isn't?
>>
>> I guess the choice is to make between you and Sascha. The implementation is
>> new, so you could pick EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, but you could also try to
>> keep to the current API.
> 
> I tend to use _GPL, but I have no strong objection using the non GPL
> variant.


I raised the question last time round. My understanding in that internal
interfaces, those which should never be used by external modules, should
be EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, but public interfaces should be EXPORT_SYMBOL. I'm
not hugely against making the entire interface _GPL, I just wanted to
make sure it was intended that way, and not just cut and paste :-).

~Ryan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: rmallon@gmail.com (Ryan Mallon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 03/10] of: Add PWM support.
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 10:08:10 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4969DA.2090508@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120225123357.GU3852@pengutronix.de>

On 25/02/12 23:33, Sascha Hauer wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 04:58:31PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> On Friday 24 February 2012, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> * Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>>> On Thursday 23 February 2012, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>> * Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>>
>>> [...]
>>>>>> * Why not include the pwm_request() call in this and return the
>>>>>>   pwm_device directly? You said that you want to get rid of the
>>>>>>   pwm_id eventually, which is a good idea, but this interface still
>>>>>>   forces one to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, that sounds sensible. I propose to rename the function to something like
>>>>> of_request_pwm().
>>>>
>>>> Sounds good.
>>
>> On second thought, I would actually prefer starting the name with pwm_ and
>> making it independent of device tree. There might be other ways how to
>> find the pwm_device from a struct device in the future, but it should always
>> be possible using a device together with a string and/or numeric identifier,
>> much in the same way that we can get a resource from a platform_device.
>>
>> Ideally, there would be a common theme behind finding a memory region,
>> irq, gpio pin, clock, regulator, dma-channel and pwm or anything else
>> that requires a link between two device nodes.
>>
>>>>> It would of course need an additional parameter (name) to
>>>>> forward to pwm_request().
>>>>
>>>> Not necessarily, it could use the dev_name(device) or the name
>>>> of the property, or a combination of the two.
>>>
>>> The problem with that is that usually the device would be named something
>>> generic like "pwm", while in case where the PWM is used for the backlight
>>> it makes sense to label the PWM device "backlight".
>>>
>>> Looking at debugfs and seeing an entry "backlight" is much more straight-
>>> forward than "pwm.0". I mean "pwm.0" doesn't carry any useful information
>>> really, does it?
>>
>> But the device name would be from the device using the pwm, not the
>> pwm controller, so it should be something more helpful, no?
>>
>>>>>>> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(of_get_named_pwm);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL?
>>>>>
>>>>> It was brought up at some point that it might be nice to allow non-GPL
>>>>> drivers to use the PWM framework as well. I don't remember any discussion
>>>>> resulting from the comment. Perhaps we should have that discussion now and
>>>>> decide whether or not we want to keep it GPL-only or not.
>>>>
>>>> I would definitely use EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL for all new code unless it
>>>> replaces an earlier interface that was available as EXPORT_SYMBOL.
>>>
>>> I just grepped the code and noticed this:
>>>
>>> 	$ $ git grep -n 'EXPORT_SYMBOL.*(pwm_request)'
>>> 	arch/arm/mach-vt8500/pwm.c:139:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/arm/plat-mxc/pwm.c:183:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/arm/plat-samsung/pwm.c:83:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	arch/unicore32/kernel/pwm.c:132:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/mfd/twl6030-pwm.c:156:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/misc/ab8500-pwm.c:108:EXPORT_SYMBOL(pwm_request);
>>> 	drivers/pwm/core.c:262:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(pwm_request);
>>>
>>> It seems like the legacy PWM API used to be non-GPL. Should I switch it back?
>>> Also does it make sense to have something like of_request_pwm() GPL when the
>>> rest of the API isn't?
>>
>> I guess the choice is to make between you and Sascha. The implementation is
>> new, so you could pick EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, but you could also try to
>> keep to the current API.
> 
> I tend to use _GPL, but I have no strong objection using the non GPL
> variant.


I raised the question last time round. My understanding in that internal
interfaces, those which should never be used by external modules, should
be EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL, but public interfaces should be EXPORT_SYMBOL. I'm
not hugely against making the entire interface _GPL, I just wanted to
make sure it was intended that way, and not just cut and paste :-).

~Ryan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-25 23:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-22 15:17 [PATCH v3 00/10] Add PWM framework and device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17 ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] arm/tegra: Add PWFM controller device tree probing Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]   ` <1329923841-32017-8-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-28 21:20     ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-28 21:20       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]       ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF1E67-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-03 22:54         ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-03 22:54           ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]           ` <20120303225404.GC6661-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-04 20:39             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-04 20:39               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-05 17:51             ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 17:51               ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]               ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BE861C46-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 18:15                 ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-05 18:15                   ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                   ` <20120305181555.GA22459-RM9K5IK7kjIyiCvfTdI0JKcOhU4Rzj621B7CTYaBSLdn68oJJulU0Q@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 18:39                     ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 18:39                       ` Stephen Warren
     [not found] ` <1329923841-32017-1-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] PWM: add pwm framework support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] pwm: Allow chips to support multiple PWMs Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1329923841-32017-3-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-22 16:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-22 16:34         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201202221634.45159.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  8:12           ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23  8:12             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120223081235.GC8621-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23 14:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-23 14:07                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201202231407.12981.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23 16:04                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23 16:04                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20120223160420.GA9899-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-03 19:32                       ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-03 19:32                         ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                         ` <20120303193249.GA22021-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06 15:38                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-06 15:38                             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                             ` <201203061538.11709.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-06 19:17                               ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-06 19:17                                 ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] of: Add PWM support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1329923841-32017-4-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-22 16:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-22 16:15         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201202221615.11605.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  7:55           ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23  7:55             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120223075537.GB8621-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23 14:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-23 14:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                 ` <201202231403.01614.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-24  6:47                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-24  6:47                     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]                     ` <20120224064749.GB18786-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-24 16:58                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-24 16:58                         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                         ` <201202241658.32062.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-25 12:33                           ` Sascha Hauer
2012-02-25 12:33                             ` Sascha Hauer
     [not found]                             ` <20120225123357.GU3852-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-25 23:08                               ` Ryan Mallon [this message]
2012-02-25 23:08                                 ` Ryan Mallon
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] arm/tegra: Fix PWM clock programming Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1329923841-32017-5-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-28 21:01       ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-28 21:01         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF1E52-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-03 22:47           ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-03 22:47             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120303224751.GB6661-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 17:33               ` Stephen Warren
2012-03-05 17:33                 ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] arm/tegra: Provide clock for only one PWM controller Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] pwm: Add NVIDIA Tegra SoC support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1329923841-32017-7-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  1:47       ` Ryan Mallon
2012-02-23  1:47         ` Ryan Mallon
     [not found]         ` <4F459A94.4030104-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  8:14           ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23  8:14             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120223081459.GD8621-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  9:25               ` Ryan Mallon
2012-02-23  9:25                 ` Ryan Mallon
     [not found]                 ` <4F460616.3080400-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-24  6:48                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-24  6:48                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-28 21:14       ` Stephen Warren
2012-02-28 21:14         ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]         ` <74CDBE0F657A3D45AFBB94109FB122FF17BDDF1E63-C7FfzLzN0UxDw2glCA4ptUEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-03 22:42           ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-03 22:42             ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]             ` <20120303224212.GA6661-RM9K5IK7kjIQXX3q8xo1gnVAuStQJXxyR5q1nwbD4aMs9pC9oP6+/A@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05  3:39               ` Olof Johansson
2012-03-05  3:39                 ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]                 ` <20120305033935.GA32675-O5ziIzlqnXUVNXGz7ipsyg@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05  7:00                   ` Thierry Reding
2012-03-05  7:00                     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] pwm: Add Blackfin support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] pwm: Add PXA support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
     [not found]     ` <1329923841-32017-10-git-send-email-thierry.reding-RM9K5IK7kjKj5M59NBduVrNAH6kLmebB@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-22 15:40       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-22 15:40         ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201202221540.16897.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  6:10           ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23  6:10             ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17   ` [PATCH v3 10/10] pwm-backlight: Add rudimentary device tree support Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 15:17     ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-22 16:02   ` [PATCH v3 00/10] Add PWM framework and " Arnd Bergmann
2012-02-22 16:02     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]     ` <201202221602.09116.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-23  7:29       ` Thierry Reding
2012-02-23  7:29         ` Thierry Reding

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