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From: Javier Martinez Canillas <javier.martinez@collabora.co.uk>
To: Javier Martinez Canillas <martinez.javier@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com>,
	Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo.moya@collabora.co.uk>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	javier@collabora.co.uk, lennart@poettering.net,
	kay.sievers@vrfy.org, alban.crequy@collabora.co.uk,
	bart.cerneels@collabora.co.uk, sjoerd.simons@collabora.co.uk,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to AF_UNIX
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 20:29:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F4FCE00.6060302@collabora.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAwP0s3Awu9-d5KDgBEdSrNmAJraL0JRO+Z6XVgYk6LX4djKyQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/01/2012 08:02 PM, Javier Martinez Canillas wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Le 1 mars 2012 08:02, Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.dentz@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Contrary to someones believes I don't think AF_INET is that fast (e.g.
>>> http://scottmoonen.com/2008/04/05/a-performance-comparison-of-af_unix-with-loopback-on-linux/)
>>>
>>
>> Oh you mention a recent zork it seems ;)
>>
>> Are we speaking of performance problems, apart from scheduler problems
>> for D-Bus (each message wakeing all receivers, all receivers read and
>> drop message but the target) ?
>>
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> The only performance problem we are talking about is the scheduling
> for D-bus (context switch to the daemon for each message). With today
> implementation the receivers only gets messages that were sent to it
> but the D-bus daemon has to be wake it up for every message to he can
> do the routing. For multicast messages (i.e: D-bus signals) this is
> even worse since the daemon has to do a send() for each receiver.
> 
>> I am actually one of the few people working to improve performance on
>> both AF_INET and AF_UNIX parts. Just take a look at recent commits.
>>
>> Right now you can send/receive millions of udp messages per second on
>> your linux machine, if you figured out how to avoid process scheduler
>> costs. If D-Bus wants more, I highly suggest using shared memory
>> instead of passing messages.
>> --
> 
> Yes, I also thought that AF_UNIX would be more efficient than AF_INET
> but I was wrong. Yesterday I wrote some tests using our multicast unix
> socket, UDP multicast over IP on a single machine and even multicast
> using AF_NETLINK sockets and got very similar performance results.
> 
> The only problem is the ordering and control flow requirements for D-bus.
> 

And the fd passing for out-ouf-band communication used for some D-bus
application such as oFono and BlueZ.

Regards,
Javier

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-01 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-20 15:57 [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to AF_UNIX Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-20 15:57 ` [PATCH 01/10] af_unix: Documentation on multicast unix sockets Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-20 15:57 ` [PATCH 02/10] af_unix: Add constant for unix socket options level Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-20 15:57 ` [PATCH 03/10] af_unix: add setsockopt on unix sockets Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-20 16:20   ` David Miller
2012-02-20 19:13 ` [PATCH 0/10] af_unix: add multicast and filtering features to AF_UNIX Colin Walters
2012-02-21  8:07   ` Rodrigo Moya
2012-02-24 20:36 ` David Miller
2012-02-27 14:00   ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-27 19:05     ` David Miller
2012-02-28 10:47       ` Rodrigo Moya
2012-02-28 14:28         ` David Lamparter
2012-02-28 15:24           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-28 16:33             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-02-28 19:05         ` David Miller
2012-03-01 11:57           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-01 12:26             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-01 12:33               ` David Laight
2012-03-01 12:50                 ` Rodrigo Moya
2012-03-01 12:59                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-01 13:56                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-01 16:00                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-01 16:02                       ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-01 17:06                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-01 17:59                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-01 18:10                           ` Alan Cox
2012-03-01 19:02                           ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-01 19:29                             ` Javier Martinez Canillas [this message]
2012-03-01 18:53                         ` David Dillow
2012-03-01 20:55                       ` David Miller
2012-03-02  4:40                         ` Stephen Hemminger
2012-03-01 20:44               ` David Miller
2012-03-01 22:01                 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-01 22:08                   ` David Miller
2012-03-02  8:39                     ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-02  8:55                       ` David Miller
2012-03-02  9:27                         ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-02  9:39                           ` David Miller
2012-03-02 13:13                           ` Eric Dumazet
2012-03-02 16:34                             ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-02 17:08                               ` Alan Cox
2012-03-05  8:38                                 ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-05 14:05                                   ` Martin Mares
2012-03-05 15:11                                     ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2012-03-05 15:49                                       ` Martin Mares
2012-03-05 18:55                           ` David Lamparter
2012-03-02 10:08                         ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-03 12:20                           ` Martin Mares
2012-03-02 22:19                         ` david
2012-03-01 12:57             ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
2012-03-01 20:42             ` David Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-03-01 14:25 Erik Hugne
2012-03-01 14:25 ` Erik Hugne
2012-03-01 17:18 ` Rodrigo Moya
2012-03-02  7:01   ` Ying Xue
     [not found]   ` <4F506ABC.8050807@windriver.com>
2012-03-05 15:49     ` Erik Hugne

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