Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Till Kamppeter]

Hi,

I have submitted the application for the Linux Foundation as mentoring 
organization in the GSoC 2012 to Google.

To get the best chances to get accepted again, the Google people need to 
see many project ideas. Please enter as soon as possible your project 
ideas on the appropriate sub pages on

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/gsoc/google-summer-code-2012

or link to the project ideas on your web site ASAP. The application 
period ends tomorrow 23:00 UTC and from then on Google people will 
evaluate the applications. So please post your ideas as soon as possible!

If you have problems mail me with your project idea and your Linux 
Foundation user name. Note that you beed to be member of the "GSOC" 
group on the Linux Foundation. Please request appropriate membership and 
I will approve it.

    Till

[Printing-architecture] Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Till Kamppeter]

Hi,

I have submitted the application for the Linux Foundation as mentoring 
organization in the GSoC 2012 to Google.

To get the best chances to get accepted again, the Google people need to 
see many project ideas. Please enter as soon as possible your project 
ideas on the appropriate sub pages on

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/gsoc/google-summer-code-2012

or link to the project ideas on your web site ASAP. The application 
period ends tomorrow 23:00 UTC and from then on Google people will 
evaluate the applications. So please post your ideas as soon as possible!

If you have problems mail me with your project idea and your Linux 
Foundation user name. Note that you beed to be member of the "GSOC" 
group on the Linux Foundation. Please request appropriate membership and 
I will approve it.

    Till

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have submitted the application for the Linux Foundation as mentoring
> organization in the GSoC 2012 to Google.
>
> To get the best chances to get accepted again, the Google people need to see
> many project ideas. Please enter as soon as possible your project ideas on
> the appropriate sub pages on
>
> https://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/gsoc/google-summer-code-2012
>
> or link to the project ideas on your web site ASAP. The application period
> ends tomorrow 23:00 UTC and from then on Google people will evaluate the
> applications. So please post your ideas as soon as possible!
>
> If you have problems mail me with your project idea and your Linux
> Foundation user name. Note that you beed to be member of the "GSOC" group on
> the Linux Foundation. Please request appropriate membership and I will
> approve it.

So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
reasonable I'll throw it on.

  Luis

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Till Kamppeter]

On 03/08/2012 10:45 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>
> So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
> have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
> source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
> reasonable I'll throw it on.
>

OK, please do it.

    Till

Re: [Printing-architecture] Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Till Kamppeter]

On 03/08/2012 10:45 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>
> So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
> have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
> source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
> reasonable I'll throw it on.
>

OK, please do it.

    Till

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 03/08/2012 10:45 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>
>> So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
>> have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
>> source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
>> reasonable I'll throw it on.
>>
>
> OK, please do it.

OK I'll add some other thing for backports. I'll try to see if some is
up for backporting a video driver and integrating it with compat.

  Luis

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Martin Schleier]

Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@...> writes:

> 
> On 03/08/2012 10:45 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> >
> > So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
> > have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
> > source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
> > reasonable I'll throw it on.
> >
> 
> OK, please do it.
> 
>     Till

Wait wait wait... qualcomm/Atheros does not have the resources, so how on earth
should a student (or students) actually do that?

Given the TODO over at
<http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc#TODO> [Scroll down till
you get "fixed in the firmware. ]. This would be at least one years of full-time
work for a small team of trained code-monkey and therefore this "project" is
highly unrealistic.

Maybe we should stick to something less complicated.

Like extending PID to use MCS rates, or implementing a TPC control algorithm
[this is stuff, every drivers could use].

Re: Google Summer of Code 2012 - Application for the Linux Foundation submitted

[Luis R. Rodriguez]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Martin Schleier <drahemmaps@gmx.net> wrote:
> Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@...> writes:
>
>>
>> On 03/08/2012 10:45 PM, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> >
>> > So one idea I had was working on open firmware for ath9k_htc. We don't
>> > have the resources to open that up but can likely provide under NDA
>> > source code to let it get cleaned up for public release. If this is
>> > reasonable I'll throw it on.
>> >
>>
>> OK, please do it.
>>
>>     Till
>
> Wait wait wait... qualcomm/Atheros does not have the resources, so how on earth
> should a student (or students) actually do that?
>
> Given the TODO over at
> <http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc#TODO> [Scroll down till
> you get "fixed in the firmware. ]. This would be at least one years of full-time
> work for a small team of trained code-monkey and therefore this "project" is
> highly unrealistic.

It didn't take one year to open up the ar9170.fw [0] which lead to
carl9170.fw [1] and we even had two drivers from this work. I think
you underestimate our potential ;)

[0] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ar9170.fw
[1] http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/carl9170.fw

> Maybe we should stick to something less complicated.

Lets not undermine potential.

> Like extending PID to use MCS rates, or implementing a TPC control algorithm
> [this is stuff, every drivers could use].

PID? Hah, PID is dead. And TPC -- well... that requires a long answer.
Just finding documentation on TPC and what vendors do for TPC is as
much hard work as writing open firmware. But hey, its a wiki, feel
free to add what you think might be good, you can, and please be
verbose ;)

http://wireless.kernel.org/en/developers/GSoC/2012

  Luis