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From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Alan Meadows <alan.meadows@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:51:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F73568D.7000703@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMy5W3foop40+R1RLv_JPhnO5ZmV90uMmNERYY-e3QCeaJfqLw@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/28/2012 09:39 PM, Alan Meadows wrote:
> I am happy to see this issue receiving some attention and second the
> wish to see these patches be considered for further review and inclusion
> in an upcoming release.
>
> Overcommit is not as common in enterprise and single-tenant virtualized
> environments as it is in multi-tenant environments, and frankly we have
> been suffering.
>
> We have been running an early copy of these patches in our lab and in a
> small production node sample set both on3.2.0-rc4 and 3.3.0-rc6 for over
> two weeks now with great success. With the heavy level of vCPU:pCPU
> overcommit required for our situation, the patches are increasing
> performance by an _order of magnitude_ on our E5645 and E5620 systems.
>

Thanks Alan for the support. I feel timing of this patch was little bad
though. (merge window)

>
>
>         Looks like a good baseline on which to build the KVM
>         implementation.  We
>         might need some handshake to prevent interference on the host
>         side with
>         the PLE code.
>

I think I still missed some point in Avi's comment. I agree that PLE
may be interfering with above patches (resulting in less performance
advantages). but we have not seen performance degradation with the
patches in earlier benchmarks. [ theoretically since patch has very
slight advantage over PLE that atleast it knows who should run next ].

So TODO in my list on this is:
1. More analysis of performance on PLE mc.
2. Seeing how to implement handshake to increase performance (if PLE +
patch combination have slight negative effect).

Sorry that, I could not do more analysis on PLE (as promised last time)
because of machine availability.

I 'll do some work on this and comeback. But in the meantime, I do not
see it as blocking for next merge window.

>
>     Avi, Thanks for reviewing. True, it is sort of equivalent to PLE on
>     non PLE machine.
>
>     Ingo, Peter,
>     Can you please let us know if this series can be considered for next
>     merge window?
>     OR do you still have some concerns that needs addressing.
>
>     I shall rebase patches to 3.3 and resend. (main difference would be
>     UNINLINE_SPIN_UNLOCK and jump label changes to use
>     static_key_true/false() usage instead of static_branch.)

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Raghavendra K T <raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Alan Meadows <alan.meadows@gmail.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, KVM <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy.fitzhardinge@citrix.com>,
	Stephan Diestelhorst <stephan.diestelhorst@amd.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	Attilio Rao <attilio.rao@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 23:51:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F73568D.7000703@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMy5W3foop40+R1RLv_JPhnO5ZmV90uMmNERYY-e3QCeaJfqLw@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/28/2012 09:39 PM, Alan Meadows wrote:
> I am happy to see this issue receiving some attention and second the
> wish to see these patches be considered for further review and inclusion
> in an upcoming release.
>
> Overcommit is not as common in enterprise and single-tenant virtualized
> environments as it is in multi-tenant environments, and frankly we have
> been suffering.
>
> We have been running an early copy of these patches in our lab and in a
> small production node sample set both on3.2.0-rc4 and 3.3.0-rc6 for over
> two weeks now with great success. With the heavy level of vCPU:pCPU
> overcommit required for our situation, the patches are increasing
> performance by an _order of magnitude_ on our E5645 and E5620 systems.
>

Thanks Alan for the support. I feel timing of this patch was little bad
though. (merge window)

>
>
>         Looks like a good baseline on which to build the KVM
>         implementation.  We
>         might need some handshake to prevent interference on the host
>         side with
>         the PLE code.
>

I think I still missed some point in Avi's comment. I agree that PLE
may be interfering with above patches (resulting in less performance
advantages). but we have not seen performance degradation with the
patches in earlier benchmarks. [ theoretically since patch has very
slight advantage over PLE that atleast it knows who should run next ].

So TODO in my list on this is:
1. More analysis of performance on PLE mc.
2. Seeing how to implement handshake to increase performance (if PLE +
patch combination have slight negative effect).

Sorry that, I could not do more analysis on PLE (as promised last time)
because of machine availability.

I 'll do some work on this and comeback. But in the meantime, I do not
see it as blocking for next merge window.

>
>     Avi, Thanks for reviewing. True, it is sort of equivalent to PLE on
>     non PLE machine.
>
>     Ingo, Peter,
>     Can you please let us know if this series can be considered for next
>     merge window?
>     OR do you still have some concerns that needs addressing.
>
>     I shall rebase patches to 3.3 and resend. (main difference would be
>     UNINLINE_SPIN_UNLOCK and jump label changes to use
>     static_key_true/false() usage instead of static_branch.)


  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-28 18:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 10:20 [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20 ` [PATCH RFC V6 1/11] x86/spinlock: replace pv spinlocks with pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:20   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:04   ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 13:22     ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 13:49       ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 14:25         ` Stephan Diestelhorst
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 14:49             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 14:33           ` Attilio Rao
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 2/11] x86/ticketlock: don't inline _spin_unlock when using paravirt spinlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 17:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-21 17:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-22 10:06       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-22 10:06     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 3/11] x86/ticketlock: collapse a layer of functions Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 4/11] xen: defer spinlock setup until boot CPU setup Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 5/11] xen/pvticketlock: Xen implementation for PV ticket locks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 6/11] xen/pvticketlocks: add xen_nopvspin parameter to disable xen pv ticketlocks Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21 ` [PATCH RFC V6 7/11] x86/pvticketlock: use callee-save for lock_spinning Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:21   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 8/11] x86/pvticketlock: when paravirtualizing ticket locks, increment by 2 Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 9/11] x86/ticketlock: add slowpath logic Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 10/11] xen/pvticketlock: allow interrupts to be enabled while blocking Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22 ` [PATCH RFC V6 11/11] xen: enable PV ticketlocks on HVM Xen Raghavendra K T
2012-03-21 10:22   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-26 14:25 ` [PATCH RFC V6 0/11] Paravirtualized ticketlocks Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 14:25   ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-27  7:37   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:09     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-28 18:21       ` Raghavendra K T [this message]
2012-03-28 18:21         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29  9:58         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29  9:58           ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-29 18:03           ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-29 18:03             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:18               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:18                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:48                 ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:48                   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:53                   ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:53                     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:56                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-01 13:56                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02  9:51                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-02 12:15                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  9:01                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05  9:01                         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05 10:40                         ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                     ` Raghavendra K T
2012-04-05  8:43                       ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-30 10:07             ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-28 16:37     ` Alan Meadows
2012-03-30 20:26 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 20:26   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-30 22:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:07     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 22:18     ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 22:18       ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-30 23:04       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-30 23:04         ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-31  0:08         ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  0:08           ` Andi Kleen
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  8:11           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-31  4:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:07       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:09       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-03-31  4:09         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-16 15:44       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 15:44         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-04-16 16:36         ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:36           ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-04-16 16:42           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2012-04-17  2:54           ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-17  2:54             ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-04-01 13:31     ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 13:31       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-02  9:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-05  9:15         ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-05  9:15           ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  4:36     ` [Xen-devel] " Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  4:36     ` Juergen Gross
2012-04-02  9:42     ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-02  9:42       ` Ian Campbell
2012-04-11  1:29     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-04-11  1:29       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-03-31  0:51   ` Raghavendra K T
2012-03-31  0:51     ` Raghavendra K T

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