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* What is so special about 172.31.254.254
@ 2012-04-04 15:25 Gáspár Lajos
  2012-04-04 15:55 ` Mike Wright
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gáspár Lajos @ 2012-04-04 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: netfilter list

Hi list,

I have a strange scenario.
For test reasons I had setup two PC-s.

1. 172.31.254.1
2. 172.31.254.254

Netmask 255.255.255.0

They do not see each other...
But if I change the second IP (for example to 172.31.254.253) then it 
all good...

What am I missing?

Swifty


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* Re: What is so special about 172.31.254.254
  2012-04-04 15:25 What is so special about 172.31.254.254 Gáspár Lajos
@ 2012-04-04 15:55 ` Mike Wright
  2012-04-04 16:05   ` Payam Chychi
  2012-04-04 18:52   ` Gáspár Lajos
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Mike Wright @ 2012-04-04 15:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gáspár Lajos; +Cc: netfilter list

On 04/04/2012 08:25 AM, Gáspár Lajos wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I have a strange scenario.
> For test reasons I had setup two PC-s.
>
> 1. 172.31.254.1
> 2. 172.31.254.254
>
> Netmask 255.255.255.0
>
> They do not see each other...
> But if I change the second IP (for example to 172.31.254.253) then it
> all good...
>
> What am I missing?

Hi Swifty.

Could it be that x.x.x.254 is somewhere defined as a default gateway?

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* Re: What is so special about 172.31.254.254
  2012-04-04 15:55 ` Mike Wright
@ 2012-04-04 16:05   ` Payam Chychi
  2012-04-04 18:54     ` Gáspár Lajos
  2012-04-04 18:52   ` Gáspár Lajos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Payam Chychi @ 2012-04-04 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Wright; +Cc: Gáspár Lajos, netfilter list

how are they "not" seeing each other? we talking on layer2, 3, 4, or 7 ?
do you have a local arp table on the system showing the neighboring system?
do you have a transparent firewall in between enforcing layer2 policies?
do you have arp-proxy or gratuitous arp setup on your devices?


-P



On 12-04-04 8:55 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
> On 04/04/2012 08:25 AM, Gáspár Lajos wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I have a strange scenario.
>> For test reasons I had setup two PC-s.
>>
>> 1. 172.31.254.1
>> 2. 172.31.254.254
>>
>> Netmask 255.255.255.0
>>
>> They do not see each other...
>> But if I change the second IP (for example to 172.31.254.253) then it
>> all good...
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> Hi Swifty.
>
> Could it be that x.x.x.254 is somewhere defined as a default gateway?
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* Re: What is so special about 172.31.254.254
  2012-04-04 15:55 ` Mike Wright
  2012-04-04 16:05   ` Payam Chychi
@ 2012-04-04 18:52   ` Gáspár Lajos
  2012-04-04 19:30     ` Ethy H. Brito
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gáspár Lajos @ 2012-04-04 18:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike Wright; +Cc: netfilter list

Hi Mike,

>> 1. 172.31.254.1
>> 2. 172.31.254.254
>>
>> Netmask 255.255.255.0
>>
>> They do not see each other...
>> But if I change the second IP (for example to 172.31.254.253) then it
>> all good...
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> Hi Swifty.
>
> Could it be that x.x.x.254 is somewhere defined as a default gateway?
The default gateway for the first PC (172.31.254.1) is 172.31.254.254...

Swifty


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* Re: What is so special about 172.31.254.254
  2012-04-04 16:05   ` Payam Chychi
@ 2012-04-04 18:54     ` Gáspár Lajos
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gáspár Lajos @ 2012-04-04 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Payam Chychi; +Cc: Mike Wright, netfilter list

Hi Payam

2012-04-04 18:05 keltezéssel, Payam Chychi írta:
> how are they "not" seeing each other? we talking on layer2, 3, 4, or 7 ?
no ping reply at all...
> do you have a local arp table on the system showing the neighboring 
> system?
If I change the IP to 253 then it is in the arp list...
> do you have a transparent firewall in between enforcing layer2 policies?
no firewall at all
> do you have arp-proxy or gratuitous arp setup on your devices?
no... it is just a cross cable setup...

Swifty

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* Re: What is so special about 172.31.254.254
  2012-04-04 18:52   ` Gáspár Lajos
@ 2012-04-04 19:30     ` Ethy H. Brito
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Ethy H. Brito @ 2012-04-04 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gáspár Lajos; +Cc: netfilter list

On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:52:02 +0200
Gáspár Lajos <swifty@freemail.hu> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> >> 1. 172.31.254.1
> >> 2. 172.31.254.254
> >>
> >> Netmask 255.255.255.0
> >>
> >> They do not see each other...
> >> But if I change the second IP (for example to 172.31.254.253) then it
> >> all good...
> >>
> >> What am I missing?
> >
> > Hi Swifty.
> >
> > Could it be that x.x.x.254 is somewhere defined as a default gateway?
> The default gateway for the first PC (172.31.254.1) is 172.31.254.254...

ping 254.254 from 254.1 and run "tcpdump -ni SOME_IFACE icmp" on *both* PC´s where SOME_IFACE are the interfaces where they talk to each other. Let us know the results.

Ethy

> 
> Swifty
> 
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