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* kernel26 'machine feature'
@ 2012-04-05 20:02 Chris Tapp
  2012-04-05 20:10 ` Gary Thomas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris Tapp @ 2012-04-05 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yocto Project

Quite a few machine conf files specify the kernel26 machine feature. e.g., crownbay.conf has:

MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 screen keyboard pci usbhost ext2 ext3 x86 \
                    acpi serial usbgadget"

What does this do? It's not listed at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#ref-features-machine and seems to be at odds with:

PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "linux-yocto"
PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto = "3.0%"

Chris Tapp

opensource@keylevel.com
www.keylevel.com





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* Re: kernel26 'machine feature'
  2012-04-05 20:02 kernel26 'machine feature' Chris Tapp
@ 2012-04-05 20:10 ` Gary Thomas
  2012-04-05 20:17   ` Chris Tapp
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2012-04-05 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: yocto

On 2012-04-05 14:02, Chris Tapp wrote:
> Quite a few machine conf files specify the kernel26 machine feature. e.g., crownbay.conf has:
>
> MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 screen keyboard pci usbhost ext2 ext3 x86 \
>                      acpi serial usbgadget"
>
> What does this do? It's not listed at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#ref-features-machine and seems to be at odds with:
>
> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "linux-yocto"
> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto = "3.0%"

I don't think it does anything any more.  I'm pretty sure it used
to be used to select which style of kernel module utilities to
install (there was a change in kernel module format between 2.4
and 2.6), but it seems that's gone now.  At least in the Poky/Yocto
tree (oe-core + meta-yocto), there is no active use of this feature.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: kernel26 'machine feature'
  2012-04-05 20:10 ` Gary Thomas
@ 2012-04-05 20:17   ` Chris Tapp
  2012-04-05 21:05     ` Denys Dmytriyenko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Chris Tapp @ 2012-04-05 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: yocto

On 5 Apr 2012, at 21:10, Gary Thomas wrote:

> On 2012-04-05 14:02, Chris Tapp wrote:
>> Quite a few machine conf files specify the kernel26 machine feature. e.g., crownbay.conf has:
>> 
>> MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 screen keyboard pci usbhost ext2 ext3 x86 \
>>                     acpi serial usbgadget"
>> 
>> What does this do? It's not listed at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#ref-features-machine and seems to be at odds with:
>> 
>> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "linux-yocto"
>> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto = "3.0%"
> 
> I don't think it does anything any more.  I'm pretty sure it used
> to be used to select which style of kernel module utilities to
> install (there was a change in kernel module format between 2.4
> and 2.6), but it seems that's gone now.  At least in the Poky/Yocto
> tree (oe-core + meta-yocto), there is no active use of this feature.

Thanks, I was hoping it was something as simple as that.

Another (possibly related) question - when the kernel built I noticed that linux_libc_headers_yocto-2.6.37 was 'mentioned' in the log output. Why was this used and not the headers for 3.0.18 ? The host is 2.6.32, so it doesn't look like is was for the tool chain.

Chris Tapp

opensource@keylevel.com
www.keylevel.com


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* Re: kernel26 'machine feature'
  2012-04-05 20:17   ` Chris Tapp
@ 2012-04-05 21:05     ` Denys Dmytriyenko
  2012-04-05 23:45       ` Darren Hart
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2012-04-05 21:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Tapp; +Cc: yocto

On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 09:17:28PM +0100, Chris Tapp wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2012, at 21:10, Gary Thomas wrote:
> 
> > On 2012-04-05 14:02, Chris Tapp wrote:
> >> Quite a few machine conf files specify the kernel26 machine feature. e.g., crownbay.conf has:
> >> 
> >> MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 screen keyboard pci usbhost ext2 ext3 x86 \
> >>                     acpi serial usbgadget"
> >> 
> >> What does this do? It's not listed at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#ref-features-machine and seems to be at odds with:
> >> 
> >> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "linux-yocto"
> >> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto = "3.0%"
> > 
> > I don't think it does anything any more.  I'm pretty sure it used
> > to be used to select which style of kernel module utilities to
> > install (there was a change in kernel module format between 2.4
> > and 2.6), but it seems that's gone now.  At least in the Poky/Yocto
> > tree (oe-core + meta-yocto), there is no active use of this feature.

Yes, Classic OE (unlike OE-Core) used to support 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, hence 
the use flag.

> Thanks, I was hoping it was something as simple as that.
> 
> Another (possibly related) question - when the kernel built I noticed that 
> linux_libc_headers_yocto-2.6.37 was 'mentioned' in the log output. Why was 
> this used and not the headers for 3.0.18 ? The host is 2.6.32, so it doesn't 
> look like is was for the tool chain.

Those are "user-space" kernel headers for libc. Those usually don't need to 
match the exact kernel version, as APIs don't change that often between the 
kernel and user-space. Unless you need some specific new API that got added in 
the latest kernel...

-- 
Denys


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* Re: kernel26 'machine feature'
  2012-04-05 21:05     ` Denys Dmytriyenko
@ 2012-04-05 23:45       ` Darren Hart
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Darren Hart @ 2012-04-05 23:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Denys Dmytriyenko; +Cc: yocto



On 04/05/2012 02:05 PM, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 09:17:28PM +0100, Chris Tapp wrote:
>> On 5 Apr 2012, at 21:10, Gary Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-04-05 14:02, Chris Tapp wrote:
>>>> Quite a few machine conf files specify the kernel26 machine feature. e.g., crownbay.conf has:
>>>>
>>>> MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 screen keyboard pci usbhost ext2 ext3 x86 \
>>>>                     acpi serial usbgadget"
>>>>
>>>> What does this do? It's not listed at http://www.yoctoproject.org/docs/latest/poky-ref-manual/poky-ref-manual.html#ref-features-machine and seems to be at odds with:
>>>>
>>>> PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel ?= "linux-yocto"
>>>> PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-yocto = "3.0%"
>>>
>>> I don't think it does anything any more.  I'm pretty sure it used
>>> to be used to select which style of kernel module utilities to
>>> install (there was a change in kernel module format between 2.4
>>> and 2.6), but it seems that's gone now.  At least in the Poky/Yocto
>>> tree (oe-core + meta-yocto), there is no active use of this feature.
> 
> Yes, Classic OE (unlike OE-Core) used to support 2.4 and 2.6 kernels, hence 
> the use flag.
> 
>> Thanks, I was hoping it was something as simple as that.
>>
>> Another (possibly related) question - when the kernel built I noticed that 
>> linux_libc_headers_yocto-2.6.37 was 'mentioned' in the log output. Why was 
>> this used and not the headers for 3.0.18 ? The host is 2.6.32, so it doesn't 
>> look like is was for the tool chain.
> 
> Those are "user-space" kernel headers for libc. Those usually don't need to 
> match the exact kernel version, as APIs don't change that often between the 
> kernel and user-space. Unless you need some specific new API that got added in 
> the latest kernel...
> 

It's done this way to speed the build process as it uses a simple
tarball download of the kernel sources to do this. Ultimately I believe
we should build this package as part of the kernel build and PROVIDE it
as well.


-- 
Darren Hart
Intel Open Source Technology Center
Yocto Project - Linux Kernel


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