From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexey Ivanov <rbtz@yandex-team.ru>,
"gnehzuil.lzheng@gmail.com" <gnehzuil.lzheng@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
yinghan@google.com
Subject: Re: mapped pagecache pages vs unmapped pages
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:49:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F838390.1080909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F837F6E.3010508@kernel.org>
On 04/09/2012 08:31 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> 2012-04-10 i??i ? 8:50, Alexey Ivanov i?' e,?:
>
>> Did you consider making this ratio tunable, at least manually(i.e. via sysctl)?
>> I suppose we are not the only ones with almost-whole-ram-mmaped workload.
>
> Personally, I think it's not good approach.
> It depends on kernel's internal implemenatation which would be changed
> in future as we chagend it at 2.6.28.
I also believe that a tunable for this is not going to be
a very workable approach, for the simple reason that changing
the value does not make a predictable change in the effectiveness
of working set detection or protection.
> In my opinion, kernel just should do best effort to keep active working
> set except some critical pages which are code pages.
Johannes has some experimental code to measure refaults, and
calculate their distance in a multi-zone, multi-cgroup environment.
That would allow us to predictably place things in the working set
as required.
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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexey Ivanov <rbtz@yandex-team.ru>,
"gnehzuil.lzheng@gmail.com" <gnehzuil.lzheng@gmail.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
yinghan@google.com
Subject: Re: mapped pagecache pages vs unmapped pages
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:49:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F838390.1080909@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F837F6E.3010508@kernel.org>
On 04/09/2012 08:31 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
> 2012-04-10 오전 8:50, Alexey Ivanov 쓴 글:
>
>> Did you consider making this ratio tunable, at least manually(i.e. via sysctl)?
>> I suppose we are not the only ones with almost-whole-ram-mmaped workload.
>
> Personally, I think it's not good approach.
> It depends on kernel's internal implemenatation which would be changed
> in future as we chagend it at 2.6.28.
I also believe that a tunable for this is not going to be
a very workable approach, for the simple reason that changing
the value does not make a predictable change in the effectiveness
of working set detection or protection.
> In my opinion, kernel just should do best effort to keep active working
> set except some critical pages which are code pages.
Johannes has some experimental code to measure refaults, and
calculate their distance in a multi-zone, multi-cgroup environment.
That would allow us to predictably place things in the working set
as required.
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All rights reversed
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-10 0:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-06 0:29 mapped pagecache pages vs unmapped pages Alexey Ivanov
2012-04-06 7:16 ` gnehzuil.lzheng
2012-04-06 7:16 ` gnehzuil.lzheng
2012-04-09 17:11 ` Alexey Ivanov
2012-04-09 17:11 ` Alexey Ivanov
2012-04-09 18:14 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-09 18:14 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-09 23:50 ` Alexey Ivanov
2012-04-09 23:50 ` Alexey Ivanov
2012-04-10 0:31 ` Minchan Kim
2012-04-10 0:31 ` Minchan Kim
2012-04-10 0:49 ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2012-04-10 0:49 ` Rik van Riel
2012-04-10 1:25 ` Minchan Kim
2012-04-10 1:25 ` Minchan Kim
2012-04-09 18:17 ` Ying Han
2012-04-09 18:17 ` Ying Han
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