From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>
Cc: Andrei Emeltchenko <Andrei.Emeltchenko.news@gmail.com>,
linux-bluetooth@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFCv1] mac80211: Adds Software / Virtual AMP 80211
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:24:58 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F84A52A.7050905@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F84A422.3030900@sipsolutions.net> (sfid-20120410_232057_023197_F7AC82E9)
On 4/10/2012 2:20 PM, Johannes Berg wrote:
>>> I don't get this patch at all. Why am I reviewing some very very basic
>>> skeleton code when we should be discussing userspace APIs (we have
>>> already discussed them with a few people years ago), how the AMP is
>>> going to be managed, how the security handshake is going to work, etc.
>>
>> adding AMP (meaning Bluetooth Alternate MAC/PHY in case anybody cares)
>> for SoftMac WiFi cards should be done solely in kernel space between
>> Bluetooth core and mac80211. All the FullMac cards will expose the HCI
>> AMP directly via the Bluetooth core. See Marvell solution for example.
>>
>> If we require a userspace interaction, I think we are doing something
>> wrong here. And as far as I can tell, the only tricky part is the WPA2
>> PSK 4-way handshake. We would need a kernel implementation for that.
>
> You already know I disagree, I don't want this code re-implemented in
> kernel space when adding a few tightly controlled APIs is all it needs
> to use an existing implementation of the relevant mechanisms.
There are also additional complexities like wpa_supplicant having to
know whether to set up/tear down a BT AMP interface for P2P concurrency
etc., so it's not really a good idea anyway to implement it purely in
kernel space and hope it'll all work out.
(My flight is boarding now so I can't elaborate or discuss right now.)
johannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-10 21:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-10 12:11 [RFCv1] Draft Software/Virtual AMP80211 Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-10 12:11 ` [RFCv1] mac80211: Adds Software / Virtual AMP 80211 Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-10 12:26 ` Julian Calaby
2012-04-10 12:47 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-10 16:39 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-10 21:17 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-10 21:20 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-10 21:24 ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2012-04-11 7:11 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 2:03 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-18 12:15 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 14:38 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-18 14:52 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 15:09 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-18 15:39 ` Mat Martineau
2012-04-19 6:36 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-19 13:28 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-19 13:39 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-19 14:21 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-10 21:29 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-11 7:05 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 2:07 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-18 11:20 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 11:51 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-18 12:10 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 12:15 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-18 12:33 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 13:11 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-18 13:22 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 14:29 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-18 15:02 ` Andrei Emeltchenko
2012-04-18 14:34 ` Johannes Berg
2012-04-18 14:56 ` Marcel Holtmann
2012-04-18 14:30 ` Johannes Berg
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