From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>
Cc: Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Zhao Chenhui-B35336 <B35336@freescale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] powerpc/85xx: add HOTPLUG_CPU support
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:25:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8D995C.9030300@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94F013E7935FF44C83EBE7784D62AD3F092D1098@039-SN2MPN1-022.039d.mgd.msft.net>
On 04/17/2012 04:51 AM, Li Yang-R58472 wrote:
>>> struct smp_ops_t smp_85xx_ops = {
>>> .kick_cpu = smp_85xx_kick_cpu,
>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_KEXEC
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
>>> + .cpu_disable = generic_cpu_disable,
>>> + .cpu_die = generic_cpu_die,
>>> +#endif
>>> .give_timebase = smp_generic_give_timebase,
>>> .take_timebase = smp_generic_take_timebase,
>>> -#endif
>>> };
>>
>> We need to stop using smp_generic_give/take_timebase, not expand its use.
>> This stuff breaks under hypervisors where timebase can't be written. It
>> wasn't too bad before since we generally didn't enable CONFIG_KEXEC, but
>> we're more likely to want CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU.
>
> I understand that the guest OS shouldn't change the real timebase.
Cannot change it, and we've seen the tbsync code loop forever when it
tries (since the changes aren't taking effect).
> But no matter what timebase syncing method we are using, the timebase need to be changed anyway for certain features.
That's why I said to do it the way U-Boot does it.
> I think the better way should be trapping timebase modification in the hypervisor.
It does trap. Currently we treat it as a no-op. The only reasonable
alternative is to give the guest an exception. It is simply not allowed
for a guest to modify the timebase -- we are not going to break the
host's timebase sync. See the virtualized implementation note in
section 9.2.1 of book III-E of Power ISA 2.06B: "In virtualized
implementations, TBU and TBL are read-only."
>> Do the timebase sync the way U-Boot does -- if you find the appropriate
>> guts node in the device tree.
>
> That involves stopping timebase for a short time on all cores including the cores that are still online. Won't this be a potential issue?
I don't think it's a big deal in the contexts where you'd be doing
this -- at least not worse than the current situation. Just make sure
that you don't reset the timebase to zero or otherwise make a core see
the timebase go backward.
-Scott
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From: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
To: Li Yang-R58472 <r58472@freescale.com>
Cc: Wood Scott-B07421 <B07421@freescale.com>,
Zhao Chenhui-B35336 <B35336@freescale.com>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/4] powerpc/85xx: add HOTPLUG_CPU support
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:25:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F8D995C.9030300@freescale.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <94F013E7935FF44C83EBE7784D62AD3F092D1098@039-SN2MPN1-022.039d.mgd.msft.net>
On 04/17/2012 04:51 AM, Li Yang-R58472 wrote:
>>> struct smp_ops_t smp_85xx_ops = {
>>> .kick_cpu = smp_85xx_kick_cpu,
>>> -#ifdef CONFIG_KEXEC
>>> +#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
>>> + .cpu_disable = generic_cpu_disable,
>>> + .cpu_die = generic_cpu_die,
>>> +#endif
>>> .give_timebase = smp_generic_give_timebase,
>>> .take_timebase = smp_generic_take_timebase,
>>> -#endif
>>> };
>>
>> We need to stop using smp_generic_give/take_timebase, not expand its use.
>> This stuff breaks under hypervisors where timebase can't be written. It
>> wasn't too bad before since we generally didn't enable CONFIG_KEXEC, but
>> we're more likely to want CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU.
>
> I understand that the guest OS shouldn't change the real timebase.
Cannot change it, and we've seen the tbsync code loop forever when it
tries (since the changes aren't taking effect).
> But no matter what timebase syncing method we are using, the timebase need to be changed anyway for certain features.
That's why I said to do it the way U-Boot does it.
> I think the better way should be trapping timebase modification in the hypervisor.
It does trap. Currently we treat it as a no-op. The only reasonable
alternative is to give the guest an exception. It is simply not allowed
for a guest to modify the timebase -- we are not going to break the
host's timebase sync. See the virtualized implementation note in
section 9.2.1 of book III-E of Power ISA 2.06B: "In virtualized
implementations, TBU and TBL are read-only."
>> Do the timebase sync the way U-Boot does -- if you find the appropriate
>> guts node in the device tree.
>
> That involves stopping timebase for a short time on all cores including the cores that are still online. Won't this be a potential issue?
I don't think it's a big deal in the contexts where you'd be doing
this -- at least not worse than the current situation. Just make sure
that you don't reset the timebase to zero or otherwise make a core see
the timebase go backward.
-Scott
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-17 16:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-16 9:22 [PATCH v4 1/4] powerpc/85xx: add HOTPLUG_CPU support Zhao Chenhui
2012-03-16 9:22 ` Zhao Chenhui
2012-04-16 19:53 ` Scott Wood
2012-04-16 19:53 ` Scott Wood
2012-04-17 9:51 ` Li Yang-R58472
2012-04-17 9:51 ` Li Yang-R58472
2012-04-17 16:25 ` Scott Wood [this message]
2012-04-17 16:25 ` Scott Wood
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