From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
mjt@tls.msk.ru, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
autofs@vger.kernel.org, raven@themaw.net, thomas@m3y3r.de,
stable@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Introduce a version6 of autofs interface, to fix design error.
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:03:11 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F9B33BF.908@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyCpiU5_nG-3Nra5q9x0-71amAQVetZTxxP6waR1ueYNQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 04/27/2012 04:07 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
> The important change is actually to make the read return the size requested.
>
> So broken user space does a read() with the wrong size - and then
> checks that it gets *exactly* that many bytes. Not more, not less.
>
> The way to handle that is to
> - make sure the kernel always writes the maximally padded data
> - make the packetization simply drop any data that was in the packet
> that the reader didn't ask for.
>
> This is very much a semantic change, in that any client that tries to
> read the packet with multiple reads (one 4-byte read to see the size,
> followed by one "right-sized" read of the data) would be totally
> screwed. The first read would indeed read the size, but it also -
> because of the packetized interface - would simply drop the data, and
> the next read would read the first bytes of the next packet.
>
> But that's not what the autofs users actually do anyway. They just
> read the whole packet. So we can make *them* work. And the new
> interface will be fairly robust (in fact, you could pass it some big
> buffer and just know you always get exactly one packet, and never have
> that whole stupid "sizeof()" at all).
>
OK, I follow you now. That would work for autofs; I presume it is not
something we would export to other users though? If so I'd worry about
opening up new security issues.
Still, I have to admit... we have a grand total of three users of this
interface as far as we know (autofs, systemd, and am-utils if they ever
revved that one to v5.) Would it really not be better to do the
zero-eating user space fix?
-hpa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-28 0:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-26 13:34 [PATCH v2] Introduce a version6 of autofs interface, to fix design error Michael Tokarev
2012-04-26 13:44 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27 0:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 9:45 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27 15:47 ` Mark Lord
2012-04-27 20:37 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-28 22:20 ` Mark Lord
2012-04-27 16:22 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 17:10 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-27 17:28 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 18:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 18:34 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 18:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 19:14 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:16 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 19:24 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 19:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 20:13 ` Stef Bon
2012-04-27 20:29 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 22:40 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 20:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 22:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 22:56 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 23:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-28 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-04-28 0:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 22:42 ` Alan Cox
2012-04-27 22:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-27 23:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-28 16:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 6:37 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29 7:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 7:45 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29 18:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 19:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-29 19:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2012-04-29 20:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-04-30 8:41 ` Thomas Meyer
2012-04-28 1:56 ` Ian Kent
2012-04-27 19:08 ` David Miller
2012-04-27 20:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-04-27 20:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
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