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From: Daniel Pocock <daniel@pocock.com.au>
To: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: md RAID with enterprise-class SATA or SAS drives
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 22:00:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FAAE8F1.8000600@pocock.com.au> (raw)



There is various information about
- enterprise-class drives (either SAS or just enterprise SATA)
- the SCSI/SAS protocols themselves vs SATA
having more advanced features (e.g. for dealing with error conditions)
than the average block device

For example, Adaptec recommends that such drives will work better with
their hardware RAID cards:

http://ask.adaptec.com/cgi-bin/adaptec_tic.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=14596
"Desktop class disk drives have an error recovery feature that will
result in a continuous retry of the drive (read or write) when an error
is encountered, such as a bad sector. In a RAID array this can cause the
RAID controller to time-out while waiting for the drive to respond."

and this blog:
http://www.adaptec.com/blog/?p=901
"major advantages to enterprise drives (TLER for one) ... opt for the
enterprise drives in a RAID environment no matter what the cost of the
drive over the desktop drive"

My question..

- does Linux md RAID actively use the more advanced features of these
drives, e.g. to work around errors?

- if a non-RAID SAS card is used, does it matter which card is chosen?
Does md work equally well with all of them?

- ignoring the better MTBF and seek times of these drives, do any of the
other features passively contribute to a better RAID experience when
using md?

- for someone using SAS or enterprise SATA drives with Linux, is there
any particular benefit to using md RAID, dmraid or filesystem (e.g.
btrfs) RAID (apart from the btrfs having checksums)?

             reply	other threads:[~2012-05-09 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09 22:00 Daniel Pocock [this message]
2012-05-09 22:33 ` md RAID with enterprise-class SATA or SAS drives Marcus Sorensen
2012-05-10 13:34   ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-10 13:51   ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 14:59     ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-10 15:15       ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 15:26     ` Marcus Sorensen
2012-05-10 16:04       ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 17:53         ` Keith Keller
2012-05-10 18:10           ` Mathias Burén
2012-05-10 18:23           ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 19:15             ` Keith Keller
2012-05-10 18:42         ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-10 19:09           ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 20:30             ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-11  6:50             ` Michael Tokarev
2012-05-21 14:19           ` Brian Candler
2012-05-21 14:29             ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-26 21:58               ` Stefan *St0fF* Huebner
2012-05-10 21:43       ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-10 23:00         ` Marcus Sorensen
2012-05-10 21:15     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-10 21:31       ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-11  1:53         ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-11  8:31           ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-11 13:54             ` Pierre Beck
2012-05-10 21:41       ` Phil Turmel
2012-05-10 22:27       ` David Brown
2012-05-10 22:37         ` Daniel Pocock
     [not found]         ` <CABYL=ToORULrdhBVQk0K8zQqFYkOomY-wgG7PpnJnzP9u7iBnA@mail.gmail.com>
2012-05-11  7:10           ` David Brown
2012-05-11  8:16             ` Daniel Pocock
2012-05-11 22:28               ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-21 15:20                 ` CoolCold
2012-05-21 18:51                   ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-21 18:54                     ` Roberto Spadim
2012-05-21 19:05                       ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-21 19:38                         ` Roberto Spadim
2012-05-21 23:34                     ` NeilBrown
2012-05-22  6:36                       ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-22  7:29                         ` David Brown
2012-05-23 13:14                           ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-23 13:27                             ` Roberto Spadim
2012-05-23 19:49                             ` David Brown
2012-05-23 23:46                               ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-24  1:18                                 ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-24  2:08                                   ` NeilBrown
2012-05-24  6:16                                     ` Stan Hoeppner
2012-05-24  2:10                         ` NeilBrown
2012-05-24  2:55                           ` Roberto Spadim
2012-05-11 22:17             ` Stan Hoeppner
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-05-10  1:29 Richard Scobie

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