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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: dedekind1@gmail.com
Cc: Heinz.Egger@linutronix.de, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v4] UBI: Fastmap support (aka checkpointing)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:29:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB38FAA.4080603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337167083.24809.49.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com>

On 16.05.2012 13:18, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 14:09 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
>>> The maximum size of a fastmap is limited to UBI_FM_MAX_BLOCKS.
>>> As I said, in worst case we'd have to scan 192 PEBs, which is a constant.
>>
>> In this case you cannot use O notation at all because it is just used
>> when talking about asymptotic things.
>
> OK, we are talking about different things. It is fine that you need to
> scan 192 eraseblocks, this is kind of your journal. And this part may be
> O(1). But there is another part as well.

Yeah, seems to.

> But as I already explained, you have a _table_ on the flash, and this
> table stores Erase Counter and LEB number for (roughly) each PEB. The
> more PEBs, the large is the table, linerarly.
>
> As I explained, you have to _read_ and _interpret_ each record in this
> table when attaching. And the more of these records you have, the longer
> it takes to attach. And this is where you have your O(N).

Okay, now I understand your point. :)

> So basically fastmap makes UBI's linerar dependency multiplier a lot
> smaller, so it is still a great improvement.

Yep.

Thanks,
//richard

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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: dedekind1@gmail.com
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Heinz.Egger@linutronix.de,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v4] UBI: Fastmap support (aka checkpointing)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 13:29:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB38FAA.4080603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337167083.24809.49.camel@sauron.fi.intel.com>

On 16.05.2012 13:18, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-05-16 at 14:09 +0300, Artem Bityutskiy wrote:
>>> The maximum size of a fastmap is limited to UBI_FM_MAX_BLOCKS.
>>> As I said, in worst case we'd have to scan 192 PEBs, which is a constant.
>>
>> In this case you cannot use O notation at all because it is just used
>> when talking about asymptotic things.
>
> OK, we are talking about different things. It is fine that you need to
> scan 192 eraseblocks, this is kind of your journal. And this part may be
> O(1). But there is another part as well.

Yeah, seems to.

> But as I already explained, you have a _table_ on the flash, and this
> table stores Erase Counter and LEB number for (roughly) each PEB. The
> more PEBs, the large is the table, linerarly.
>
> As I explained, you have to _read_ and _interpret_ each record in this
> table when attaching. And the more of these records you have, the longer
> it takes to attach. And this is where you have your O(N).

Okay, now I understand your point. :)

> So basically fastmap makes UBI's linerar dependency multiplier a lot
> smaller, so it is still a great improvement.

Yep.

Thanks,
//richard


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 11:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-15 17:11 [RFC v4] UBI: Fastmap support (aka checkpointing) Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 1/7] [RFC] UBI: Export next_sqnum() Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16 13:01   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 13:01     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-21 13:34     ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-21 13:34       ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-21 14:00       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-21 14:00         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-21 14:16         ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-21 14:16           ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-22  8:23           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-22  8:23             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-22 10:58       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-22 10:58         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 14:03   ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-16 14:03     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-16 14:27     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 14:27       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-17  9:45       ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-17  9:45         ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-17 11:44         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-17 11:44           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-17 11:47           ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-17 11:47             ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-17 12:34             ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-17 12:34               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 2/7] [RFC] UBI: Export compare_lebs() Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16 14:09   ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-16 14:09     ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 3/7] [RFC] UBI: Add fastmap on-flash layout Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] [RFC] UBI: Add fastmap structs to ubi_device Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 5/7] [RFC] UBI: Make wl subsystem fastmap aware Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 6/7] [RFC] UBI: Implement fastmapping support Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11 ` [PATCH 7/7] [RFC] UBI: Wire up fastmap support Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:11   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 17:48 ` [RFC v4] UBI: Fastmap support (aka checkpointing) Subodh Nijsure
2012-05-15 17:48   ` Subodh Nijsure
2012-05-15 18:10   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 18:10     ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 18:02 ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 18:02   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-15 19:46 ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-15 19:46   ` Shmulik Ladkani
2012-05-16  6:54   ` Fastmap - please, review and test Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16  6:54     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 11:51     ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16 11:51       ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16  9:38 ` [RFC v4] UBI: Fastmap support (aka checkpointing) Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16  9:38   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16  9:42   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16  9:42     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 10:50   ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16 10:50     ` Richard Weinberger
2012-05-16 11:09     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 11:09       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 11:18       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 11:18         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2012-05-16 11:29         ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2012-05-16 11:29           ` Richard Weinberger

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