From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: zhangyanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: dzickus@redhat.com, luto@mit.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
mtosatti@redhat.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com,
ludwig.nussel@suse.de, ebiederm@xmission.com,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Export offsets of VMCS fields as note information for kdump
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 20:43:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB92D5A.3060507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB35C48.30708@cn.fujitsu.com>
On 05/16/2012 10:50 AM, zhangyanfei wrote:
> This patch set exports offsets of VMCS fields as note information for
> kdump. We call it VMCSINFO. The purpose of VMCSINFO is to retrieve
> runtime state of guest machine image, such as registers, in host
> machine's crash dump as VMCS format. The problem is that VMCS internal
> is hidden by Intel in its specification. So, we slove this problem
> by reverse engineering implemented in this patch set. The VMCSINFO
> is exported via sysfs to kexec-tools just like VMCOREINFO.
>
> Here are two usercases for two features that we want.
>
> 1) Create guest machine's crash dumpfile from host machine's crash dumpfile
>
> In general, we want to use this feature on failure analysis for the system
> where the processing depends on the communication between host and guest
> machines to look into the system from both machines's viewpoints.
>
> As a concrete situation, consider where there's heartbeat monitoring
> feature on the guest machine's side, where we need to determine in
> which machine side the cause of heartbeat stop lies. In our actual
> experiments, we encountered such situation and we found the cause of
> the bug was in host's process schedular so guest machine's vcpu stopped
> for a long time and then led to heartbeat stop.
>
> The module that judges heartbeat stop is on guest machine, so we need
> to debug guest machine's data. But if the cause lies in host machine
> side, we need to look into host machine's crash dump.
Do you mean, that a heartbeat failure in the guest lead to host panic?
My expectation is that a problem in the guest will cause the guest to
panic and perhaps produce a dump; the host will remain up.
> Without this feature, we first create guest machine's dump and then
> create host mahine's, but there's only a short time between two
> processings, during which it's unlikely that buggy situation remains.
>
> So, we think the feature is useful to debug both guest machine's and
> host machine's sides at the same time, and expect we can make failure
> analysis efficiently.
>
> Of course, we believe this feature is commonly useful on the situation
> where guest machine doesn't work well due to something of host machine's.
>
> 2) Get offsets of VMCS information on the CPU running on the host machine
>
> If kdump doesn't work well, then it means we cannot use kvm API to get
> register values of guest machine and they are still left on its vmcs
> region. In the case, we use crash dump mechanism running outside of
> linux kernel, such as sadump, a firmware-based crash dump. Then VMCS
> information is then necessary.
Shouldn't sadump then expose the VMCS offsets? Perhaps bundling them
into its dump file?
--
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To: zhangyanfei <zhangyanfei-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dzickus-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
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Greg KH
<gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Export offsets of VMCS fields as note information for kdump
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 20:43:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB92D5A.3060507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB35C48.30708-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
On 05/16/2012 10:50 AM, zhangyanfei wrote:
> This patch set exports offsets of VMCS fields as note information for
> kdump. We call it VMCSINFO. The purpose of VMCSINFO is to retrieve
> runtime state of guest machine image, such as registers, in host
> machine's crash dump as VMCS format. The problem is that VMCS internal
> is hidden by Intel in its specification. So, we slove this problem
> by reverse engineering implemented in this patch set. The VMCSINFO
> is exported via sysfs to kexec-tools just like VMCOREINFO.
>
> Here are two usercases for two features that we want.
>
> 1) Create guest machine's crash dumpfile from host machine's crash dumpfile
>
> In general, we want to use this feature on failure analysis for the system
> where the processing depends on the communication between host and guest
> machines to look into the system from both machines's viewpoints.
>
> As a concrete situation, consider where there's heartbeat monitoring
> feature on the guest machine's side, where we need to determine in
> which machine side the cause of heartbeat stop lies. In our actual
> experiments, we encountered such situation and we found the cause of
> the bug was in host's process schedular so guest machine's vcpu stopped
> for a long time and then led to heartbeat stop.
>
> The module that judges heartbeat stop is on guest machine, so we need
> to debug guest machine's data. But if the cause lies in host machine
> side, we need to look into host machine's crash dump.
Do you mean, that a heartbeat failure in the guest lead to host panic?
My expectation is that a problem in the guest will cause the guest to
panic and perhaps produce a dump; the host will remain up.
> Without this feature, we first create guest machine's dump and then
> create host mahine's, but there's only a short time between two
> processings, during which it's unlikely that buggy situation remains.
>
> So, we think the feature is useful to debug both guest machine's and
> host machine's sides at the same time, and expect we can make failure
> analysis efficiently.
>
> Of course, we believe this feature is commonly useful on the situation
> where guest machine doesn't work well due to something of host machine's.
>
> 2) Get offsets of VMCS information on the CPU running on the host machine
>
> If kdump doesn't work well, then it means we cannot use kvm API to get
> register values of guest machine and they are still left on its vmcs
> region. In the case, we use crash dump mechanism running outside of
> linux kernel, such as sadump, a firmware-based crash dump. Then VMCS
> information is then necessary.
Shouldn't sadump then expose the VMCS offsets? Perhaps bundling them
into its dump file?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: zhangyanfei <zhangyanfei@cn.fujitsu.com>
Cc: mtosatti@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, luto@mit.edu,
Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
dzickus@redhat.com, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com,
ludwig.nussel@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] Export offsets of VMCS fields as note information for kdump
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 20:43:54 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB92D5A.3060507@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4FB35C48.30708@cn.fujitsu.com>
On 05/16/2012 10:50 AM, zhangyanfei wrote:
> This patch set exports offsets of VMCS fields as note information for
> kdump. We call it VMCSINFO. The purpose of VMCSINFO is to retrieve
> runtime state of guest machine image, such as registers, in host
> machine's crash dump as VMCS format. The problem is that VMCS internal
> is hidden by Intel in its specification. So, we slove this problem
> by reverse engineering implemented in this patch set. The VMCSINFO
> is exported via sysfs to kexec-tools just like VMCOREINFO.
>
> Here are two usercases for two features that we want.
>
> 1) Create guest machine's crash dumpfile from host machine's crash dumpfile
>
> In general, we want to use this feature on failure analysis for the system
> where the processing depends on the communication between host and guest
> machines to look into the system from both machines's viewpoints.
>
> As a concrete situation, consider where there's heartbeat monitoring
> feature on the guest machine's side, where we need to determine in
> which machine side the cause of heartbeat stop lies. In our actual
> experiments, we encountered such situation and we found the cause of
> the bug was in host's process schedular so guest machine's vcpu stopped
> for a long time and then led to heartbeat stop.
>
> The module that judges heartbeat stop is on guest machine, so we need
> to debug guest machine's data. But if the cause lies in host machine
> side, we need to look into host machine's crash dump.
Do you mean, that a heartbeat failure in the guest lead to host panic?
My expectation is that a problem in the guest will cause the guest to
panic and perhaps produce a dump; the host will remain up.
> Without this feature, we first create guest machine's dump and then
> create host mahine's, but there's only a short time between two
> processings, during which it's unlikely that buggy situation remains.
>
> So, we think the feature is useful to debug both guest machine's and
> host machine's sides at the same time, and expect we can make failure
> analysis efficiently.
>
> Of course, we believe this feature is commonly useful on the situation
> where guest machine doesn't work well due to something of host machine's.
>
> 2) Get offsets of VMCS information on the CPU running on the host machine
>
> If kdump doesn't work well, then it means we cannot use kvm API to get
> register values of guest machine and they are still left on its vmcs
> region. In the case, we use crash dump mechanism running outside of
> linux kernel, such as sadump, a firmware-based crash dump. Then VMCS
> information is then necessary.
Shouldn't sadump then expose the VMCS offsets? Perhaps bundling them
into its dump file?
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-20 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-16 7:50 [PATCH v2 0/5] Export offsets of VMCS fields as note information for kdump zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:50 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] x86: Add helper variables and functions to hold VMCSINFO zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:52 ` zhangyanfei
2012-06-14 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-16 7:54 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] KVM: Export symbols for module vmcsinfo-intel zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:54 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:54 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:55 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] KVM-INTEL: Add new module vmcsinfo-intel to fill VMCSINFO zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:55 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:55 ` zhangyanfei
2012-06-14 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-15 3:03 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-06-15 3:03 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-05-16 7:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] ksysfs: Export VMCSINFO via sysfs zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:56 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:56 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:57 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] Documentation: Add ABI entry for sysfs file vmcsinfo and vmcsinfo_maxsize zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:57 ` zhangyanfei
2012-05-16 7:57 ` zhangyanfei
2012-06-14 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-20 17:43 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-05-20 17:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Export offsets of VMCS fields as note information for kdump Avi Kivity
2012-05-20 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 2:32 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-21 2:32 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-21 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 8:34 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 9:08 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-21 9:08 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-21 9:08 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-21 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-21 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-22 3:40 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-22 3:40 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-22 3:40 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-28 5:25 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-28 5:25 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-28 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-28 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-28 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2012-05-29 7:06 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-29 7:06 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-06-11 5:35 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-06-11 5:35 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-06-11 5:35 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-06-14 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-14 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2012-06-18 7:25 ` YOSHIDA Masanori
2012-06-18 7:25 ` YOSHIDA Masanori
2012-06-18 7:25 ` YOSHIDA Masanori
2012-05-21 18:58 ` Eric Northup
2012-05-21 18:58 ` Eric Northup
2012-05-21 18:58 ` Eric Northup
2012-05-22 3:53 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-22 3:53 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-22 3:53 ` Yanfei Zhang
2012-05-22 20:53 ` Eric Northup
2012-05-22 20:53 ` Eric Northup
2012-05-22 20:53 ` Eric Northup
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