[mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Ben Schmidt]

Hi, everybody!

I am pleased to announce that Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 has been released. Find it
on the downloads page[1].

This version contains a number of important new features:

- Richer list texts (including a new naming scheme, conditionals,
   automatic wrapping and true UTF-8 support). See README.listtexts for
   more details.
- Notifying posters when their posts are being moderated (notifymod
   tunable).
- Not-me-too feature to avoid having the poster receiving their own
   messages (notmetoo tunable).
- Ability to explicitly reject posts (exposed in new list texts).
- Ability to explicitly obstruct subscriptions (exposed in new list
   texts).
- Unsubscribe from all versions of a list at once (changed behaviour of
   +unsubscribe[-{digest|nomail}]; they now all remove the subscriber
   from all versions of the list).
- Ability to switch between different versions of a list by using
   +subscribe[-{digest|nomail|both}] ('both' means normal and digest, and
   is a 'hidden feature' not mentioned in the supplied list texts).
- Subscription ability in php-admin.

There have also been a number of bug fixes (including fixing some bugs
which could cause mail to be lost), so everybody is encouraged to
upgrade.

The documentation has also been improved.

It is almost entirely backward-compatible. For instance, old list texts
should continue to work (though upgrading them is highly recommended, as
they have been vastly improved for this version). The main
backward-incompatible change is that unsubscribe will now remove a user
from all versions of the list, not just one (no matter which unsubscribe
address is used). Users of the php-admin interface will also need to
modify their configuration files to define $confdir.

(See the ChangeLog[2] for a more detailed list of changes.)

I hope you enjoy the new version.

Ben.



[1] http://mlmmj.org/downloads
[2] http://mlmmj.org/hg/mlmmj/file/RELEASE_1_2_18_0/ChangeLog

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Thomas Goirand]

On 05/29/2012 10:14 PM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
> Hi, everybody!
> 
> I am pleased to announce that Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 has been released. Find it
> on the downloads page[1].

Hey, that's just on time for Debian 7 (code name: Wheezy)! Thanks for
that. I've updated the Debian packages today, and uploaded to SID, if
everything goes well, it's going to be in Wheezy.

I'm quite happy to see that I had to remove most of the Debian specific
patches, as they were incorporated upstream (eg: on mlmmj original
sources). Still, there are 2 patches remaining. I believe that this one
could be somehow avoided:

--- a/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:11.000000000 +0800
+++ b/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:16.000000000 +0800
@@ -88,7 +88,7 @@
 #define CHECKFULLPATH(name) if(strchr(name, '/') = NULL) { \
 			fprintf(stderr, "All mlmmj binaries have to " \
 					"be invoked with full path,\n" \
-					"e.g. /usr/local/bin/%s\n", name); \
+					"e.g. /usr/bin/%s\n", name); \
 			exit(EXIT_FAILURE); \
 			};

what do you think?

The other one is contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess:

diff -u -r -N a/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess
b/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess
--- a/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess	2012-01-22
15:40:16.000000000 +0800
+++ b/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess	2012-01-22
15:40:37.000000000 +0800
@@ -1,4 +1,5 @@
 Require valid-user
 AuthType Basic
-AuthName "mlmmj web-interface"
-AuthUserFile /home/mlmmj/htpasswd
+AuthName "mlmmj web-interface on Debian GNU/Linux"
+AuthUserFile /etc/mlmmj-php-web-admin/htpasswd
+php_value include_path "/usr/share/mlmmj-php-web-admin"

I don't see how this one could be avoided, and I'm fine keeping it in
the package.

Thomas

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Mads Martin Jørgensen]

On 30/05/12 15.30, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> I'm quite happy to see that I had to remove most of the Debian specific
> patches, as they were incorporated upstream (eg: on mlmmj original
> sources). Still, there are 2 patches remaining. I believe that this one
> could be somehow avoided:
>
> --- a/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:11.000000000 +0800
> +++ b/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -88,7 +88,7 @@
>   #define CHECKFULLPATH(name) if(strchr(name, '/') = NULL) { \
>   			fprintf(stderr, "All mlmmj binaries have to " \
>   					"be invoked with full path,\n" \
> -					"e.g./usr/local/bin/%s\n", name); \
> +					"e.g./usr/bin/%s\n", name); \
>   			exit(EXIT_FAILURE); \
>   			};

The auto-* macros should substitute this to always Say The Right Thing[tm].

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
  and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                  -- A. P. J.

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Ben Schmidt]

> Hey, that's just on time for Debian 7 (code name: Wheezy)! Thanks for
> that. I've updated the Debian packages today, and uploaded to SID, if
> everything goes well, it's going to be in Wheezy.

Excellent!

> I'm quite happy to see that I had to remove most of the Debian specific
> patches, as they were incorporated upstream (eg: on mlmmj original
> sources). Still, there are 2 patches remaining. I believe that this one
> could be somehow avoided:
>
> --- a/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:11.000000000 +0800
> +++ b/include/mlmmj.h	2012-01-22 15:36:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -88,7 +88,7 @@
>   #define CHECKFULLPATH(name) if(strchr(name, '/') = NULL) { \
>   			fprintf(stderr, "All mlmmj binaries have to " \
>   					"be invoked with full path,\n" \
> -					"e.g. /usr/local/bin/%s\n", name); \
> +					"e.g. /usr/bin/%s\n", name); \
>   			exit(EXIT_FAILURE); \
>   			};
>
> what do you think?

Yeah, that's really stupid. We should be able to get the prefix in a
macro in config.h if nothing else.

Could you possibly jump on the bug tracker at
http://mlmmj.org/bugs/report.php and add this as a bug, and upload the
patch (even though this patch doesn't fix the bug, it demonstrates and
localises the problem)? Then I should get around to it before the next
release if not before.

One day we might even fix things so you don't need to use the full path
to invoke the binaries. I certainly find it really annoying, and I don't
know any other application that requires it. You'd think we could figure
out what's going on from argv[0] or something.

> The other one is contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess:
>
> diff -u -r -N a/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess
> b/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess
> --- a/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess	2012-01-22
> 15:40:16.000000000 +0800
> +++ b/contrib/web/php-admin/htdocs/dot.htaccess	2012-01-22
> 15:40:37.000000000 +0800
> @@ -1,4 +1,5 @@
>   Require valid-user
>   AuthType Basic
> -AuthName "mlmmj web-interface"
> -AuthUserFile /home/mlmmj/htpasswd
> +AuthName "mlmmj web-interface on Debian GNU/Linux"
> +AuthUserFile /etc/mlmmj-php-web-admin/htpasswd
> +php_value include_path "/usr/share/mlmmj-php-web-admin"
>
> I don't see how this one could be avoided, and I'm fine keeping it in
> the package.

Yeah, I agree. It's really an example file anyway. You just have a more
Debian-specific example. There will be no one-size-fits-all for this.

Ben.

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Chris Webb]

Ben Schmidt <mail_ben_schmidt@yahoo.com.au> writes:

> One day we might even fix things so you don't need to use the full path
> to invoke the binaries. I certainly find it really annoying, and I don't
> know any other application that requires it. You'd think we could figure
> out what's going on from argv[0] or something.

I always just patch away this code completely when I build mlmmj. Like
almost everyone else, I don't build systems with multiple versions of mlmmj
on my path, and have always found the UI breakage of requiring absolute
paths on the command line because someone might do something that weird
completely bonkers.

Cheers,

Chris.

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Mads Martin Jørgensen]

On 30/05/12 16.00, Ben Schmidt wrote:
> One day we might even fix things so you don't need to use the full path
> to invoke the binaries. I certainly find it really annoying, and I don't
> know any other application that requires it. You'd think we could figure
> out what's going on from argv[0] or something.

It's totally possible to just use path - but it's a security question. 
The less you need to parse things from the environment, the better.

-- 
Mads Martin Joergensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
  and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?"
                                  -- A. P. J.

Re: [mlmmj] Mlmmj 1.2.18.0 released

[Thomas Goirand]

On 05/30/2012 10:00 PM, Ben Schmidt wrote:
> Could you possibly jump on the bug tracker at
> http://mlmmj.org/bugs/report.php and add this as a bug, and upload the
> patch (even though this patch doesn't fix the bug, it demonstrates and
> localises the problem)? Then I should get around to it before the next
> release if not before.

Done!

Thomas