From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Anton Vorontsov <cbouatmailru@gmail.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes...
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:57:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD1A26B.7010601@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGHDF_QnRSA_CckdTDGxNkOFvRNZoFoW0iGDjGvTCK=2A@mail.gmail.com>
(6/8/12 2:54 AM), Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:55 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For some cases, yes, but probably not for all.
>>>
>>> For example, if userspace doesn't know about "about to swap real soon"
>>> condition, it can continue to grow its caches making
>>> fallocate(VOLATILE) pretty much useless.
>>
>> Fair enough. But, Please consider your scenario don't need vmevent(2),
>> cat /proc/meminfo works enough. Only dropping activity need a quick work
>> and just in time notification. cache growing limitation don't need.
>
> Why do you keep bringing this up? Yes, you might get away with polling
> /proc/meminfo or /proc/vmstat for some specific cases. It does not
> make it a proper generic solution to the problem "vmevent" ABI tries
> to address.
Guys, current vmevent _is_ a polling interface. It only is wrapped kernel
timer.
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From: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
Cc: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
Anton Vorontsov <cbouatmailru@gmail.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Leonid Moiseichuk <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org, patches@linaro.org,
kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes...
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 02:57:47 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FD1A26B.7010601@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOJsxLGHDF_QnRSA_CckdTDGxNkOFvRNZoFoW0iGDjGvTCK=2A@mail.gmail.com>
(6/8/12 2:54 AM), Pekka Enberg wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 6:55 AM, KOSAKI Motohiro
> <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For some cases, yes, but probably not for all.
>>>
>>> For example, if userspace doesn't know about "about to swap real soon"
>>> condition, it can continue to grow its caches making
>>> fallocate(VOLATILE) pretty much useless.
>>
>> Fair enough. But, Please consider your scenario don't need vmevent(2),
>> cat /proc/meminfo works enough. Only dropping activity need a quick work
>> and just in time notification. cache growing limitation don't need.
>
> Why do you keep bringing this up? Yes, you might get away with polling
> /proc/meminfo or /proc/vmstat for some specific cases. It does not
> make it a proper generic solution to the problem "vmevent" ABI tries
> to address.
Guys, current vmevent _is_ a polling interface. It only is wrapped kernel
timer.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-08 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 188+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-01 13:24 [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] vmevent: Implement equal-to attribute state Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] vmevent: Pass attr argument to sampling functions Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:25 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-01 13:26 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 10:33 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-04 4:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 4:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-04 7:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-04 7:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 7:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 7:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-07 8:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-07 8:26 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-07 12:15 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 12:15 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-07 19:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-07 19:19 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 0:31 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 0:31 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 5:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 5:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 5:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 5:42 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 5:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 5:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:11 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:36 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 8:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 9:15 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-08 9:15 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-08 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 9:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 10:38 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-05-08 10:38 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:21 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] vmstat: Implement refresh_vm_stats() Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-05 14:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-08 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 3:17 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/5] vmevent: Convert from deferred timer to deferred work Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 3:25 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 8:07 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:07 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:05 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:05 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:10 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:18 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:18 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:23 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:28 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:28 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:33 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 7:49 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:49 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 7:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 8:41 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:41 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:57 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 8:57 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 10:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 10:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 11:03 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 11:03 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 12:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 12:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 12:25 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 12:25 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/5] vmevent: Refresh vmstats before sampling Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-05 14:36 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmevent: Hide meaningful names from the user-visible header Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` [PATCH 5/5] vmevent: Rename one-shot mode to edge trigger mode Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-01 12:24 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-03 18:26 ` [PATCH 0/5] Some vmevent fixes Pekka Enberg
2012-06-03 18:26 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 8:45 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 8:45 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 9:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 9:20 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 12:23 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 12:23 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 11:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 11:38 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 12:17 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 12:17 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-04 13:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 13:35 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 7:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:53 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 8:00 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:01 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-05 8:16 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-05 8:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 8:27 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 3:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 3:35 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 20:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 20:05 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 22:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-04 22:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 3:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 3:45 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:57 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:47 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 8:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-05 8:39 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-07 2:41 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-07 2:41 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 7:49 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 7:49 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 8:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 8:43 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 8:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 8:48 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 9:12 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 9:12 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-06-08 9:45 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 9:45 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 10:42 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 10:42 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-08 11:14 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-08 11:14 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-06-11 4:50 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-11 4:50 ` Minchan Kim
2012-06-05 7:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 7:52 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 3:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 3:55 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro [this message]
2012-06-08 6:57 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-08 6:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-08 6:59 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-04 19:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-06-04 19:50 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:32 ` [PATCH 3/3] vmevent: Implement special low-memory attribute Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 8:32 ` Minchan Kim
2012-05-08 9:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-08 9:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-06-05 14:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-06-05 14:40 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-05-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 6:58 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 7:16 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2012-05-08 8:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 8:13 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 8:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-08 8:21 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 8:10 ` [PATCH 0/3] vmevent: Implement 'low memory' attribute Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 8:10 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 9:44 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 9:44 ` Anton Vorontsov
2012-05-03 10:54 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-05-03 10:54 ` Pekka Enberg
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