From: Michael Zintakis <michael.zintakis@googlemail.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Fintek f71882fg ACPI conflict
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:31:30 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEC4092.7090104@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120628052032.GA16364@roeck-us.net>
> Do you mean sysfs ?
>
Yeah, sorry. Everything under /sys/class/hwmon/...
> Correct. 1 is too low, though. Default value per datasheet is 0x80.
> Whatever it is, it should be high enough for the fans to start spinning.
>
That won't be enough! I did a bit of experimenting and discovered the
following:
The minimum value for pwm on all fans necessary to keep them going is 75
(decimal) - below that value the fan just stops. The minimum value to
kick-start the fan and make it spin from standstill is 190 (also
decimal) - nothing below this value is sufficient to move the fan from
its standstill position (in my script I use the maximum value - 255 - to
be on the safe side).
So, even if I set the pwmX_auto_point5_pwm to 75 that won't be enough to
kick-start the fan initially. On the other hand, if I set it to 190 that
would be enough, but the fan will continue to spin at this rate which is
very high (I may as well abandon fan/temperature management then).
> The F71882FG does not have a register to set a "start spinning" pwm value,
> so your minimum must guarantee that the fans do start to spin.
>
> What is your setting for pwmX_enable ? It should probably be set to
> automatic(2) so the chip can automatically control the fan speed depending
> on the temperature.
>
It is indeed set to 2.
>> Even if I bring this value to some "idle" current, that won't help
>> much because when I first boot the system, the fans are *always*
>> still, so even if the idle state is >1, that won't help me much, so
>> there must be another - better - way than using a script to
>> "kickstart" the fans initially, surely!
>>
>>
> Maybe fan control is not set to automatic by the BIOS ?
>
It is and it is why I am keeping this automatic BIOS fan management in
place and my script only intervenes to kick-start the fans when they are
still, otherwise this automatic control is doing a good job. The problem
is the actual kick-start (and the fact that there is no way I could
force ACPI to abandon the region of memory used by the driver).
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From: Michael Zintakis <michael.zintakis@googlemail.com>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] Fintek f71882fg ACPI conflict
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:31:30 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FEC4092.7090104@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120628052032.GA16364@roeck-us.net>
> Do you mean sysfs ?
>
Yeah, sorry. Everything under /sys/class/hwmon/...
> Correct. 1 is too low, though. Default value per datasheet is 0x80.
> Whatever it is, it should be high enough for the fans to start spinning.
>
That won't be enough! I did a bit of experimenting and discovered the
following:
The minimum value for pwm on all fans necessary to keep them going is 75
(decimal) - below that value the fan just stops. The minimum value to
kick-start the fan and make it spin from standstill is 190 (also
decimal) - nothing below this value is sufficient to move the fan from
its standstill position (in my script I use the maximum value - 255 - to
be on the safe side).
So, even if I set the pwmX_auto_point5_pwm to 75 that won't be enough to
kick-start the fan initially. On the other hand, if I set it to 190 that
would be enough, but the fan will continue to spin at this rate which is
very high (I may as well abandon fan/temperature management then).
> The F71882FG does not have a register to set a "start spinning" pwm value,
> so your minimum must guarantee that the fans do start to spin.
>
> What is your setting for pwmX_enable ? It should probably be set to
> automatic(2) so the chip can automatically control the fan speed depending
> on the temperature.
>
It is indeed set to 2.
>> Even if I bring this value to some "idle" current, that won't help
>> much because when I first boot the system, the fans are *always*
>> still, so even if the idle state is >1, that won't help me much, so
>> there must be another - better - way than using a script to
>> "kickstart" the fans initially, surely!
>>
>>
> Maybe fan control is not set to automatic by the BIOS ?
>
It is and it is why I am keeping this automatic BIOS fan management in
place and my script only intervenes to kick-start the fans when they are
still, otherwise this automatic control is doing a good job. The problem
is the actual kick-start (and the fact that there is no way I could
force ACPI to abandon the region of memory used by the driver).
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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-26 23:56 [lm-sensors] Fintek f71882fg ACPI conflict Michael Zintakis
2012-06-27 17:15 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-27 17:15 ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2012-06-27 23:00 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-27 23:00 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 1:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-28 1:45 ` Matthew Garrett
2012-06-28 11:15 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 11:15 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 12:40 ` Jean Delvare
2012-06-28 12:40 ` Jean Delvare
2012-06-28 12:53 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 12:53 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 13:27 ` Jean Delvare
2012-06-28 13:27 ` Jean Delvare
2012-06-29 5:35 ` Robert Hancock
2012-06-29 5:35 ` Robert Hancock
2012-06-29 12:11 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-29 12:11 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-29 16:34 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-29 16:34 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 5:20 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 5:20 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 11:31 ` Michael Zintakis [this message]
2012-06-28 11:31 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 17:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 17:12 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 17:39 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 17:39 ` Michael Zintakis
2012-06-28 18:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 18:57 ` Guenter Roeck
2012-06-28 3:15 ` Andrey Repin
2012-06-28 11:36 ` Michael Zintakis
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