From: Ian Molton <ian.molton@codethink.co.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support.
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:21:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023D577.8090001@codethink.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201208091143.32972.arnd@arndb.de>
On 09/08/12 12:43, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On 08/08/12 14:19, Ian Molton wrote:
> > On 08/08/12 13:39, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 08 August 2012, Ian Molton wrote:
> >>> This method would require a small amount of rework in the driver to
> >>> set up <n> ports, rather than just one.
> >> This looks quite nice, but it is still very much incompatible with the
> >> existing binding. Obviously we can abandon an existing binding and
> >> introduce a second one for the same hardware, but that should not
> >> be taken lightly.
> > Fair, however the existing users aren't anywhere near as
> > numerous as the new ones.
>
> Depends on how you count the numbers. I see at least three machines
> supported in the kernel with the old binding and none with the new one
> so far ;-)
I'm curious as to how any of those actually work, given the
apparent total lack of a mv64360-mdio device binding...
> > As you can see, instead of putting port1 at +0x1700 or so,
> > marvell have overlapped the register files - in fact, doubly
> > so, since port1 + 0x1080 is right in the middle of
> > (port0 + 0x1000) -> (port0 + 0x16ff), so one cant simply map two
> > sets of regs like 0x0000->0x03ff and 0x1000->0x16ff for port one
> > either.
>
> This could theoretically be dealt with by having 5 register ranges
I make that three...
> per device, but that would cause extra overhead and also be
> incompatible with the existing binding.
Indeed.
> I think showing one
> parent device with children at address 0, 1 and 2 is ok.
Is it acceptable for the child devices to directly access the
parents register space? because there would be no other
way for that to work.
> The driver
> already knows all those offsets and they are always the same
> for all variants of mv643xx, right?
Yes, but its not clean. And no amount of refactoring is
really going to make a nice driver that also fits the ancient
(and badly thought out) OF bindings.
If we have to break things, we can at least go for a nice
clean design, surely?
The ports arent really child devices of the MAC. The MAC
just has 3 ports.
Luckily, it looks like the existing users don't actually use
the device tree to set up the driver at all, preferring to
translate their D-T bindings to calls to
platform_device_register() so all we'd need to do to
support them is completely ignore them.
We're going to have to maintain a legacy
platform_device -> DT bindings hack somewhere anyway,
at least until the remaining other users of the driver
convert to D-T.
-Ian
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: ian.molton@codethink.co.uk (Ian Molton)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 0/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support.
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:21:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023D577.8090001@codethink.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201208091143.32972.arnd@arndb.de>
On 09/08/12 12:43, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On 08/08/12 14:19, Ian Molton wrote:
> > On 08/08/12 13:39, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 08 August 2012, Ian Molton wrote:
> >>> This method would require a small amount of rework in the driver to
> >>> set up <n> ports, rather than just one.
> >> This looks quite nice, but it is still very much incompatible with the
> >> existing binding. Obviously we can abandon an existing binding and
> >> introduce a second one for the same hardware, but that should not
> >> be taken lightly.
> > Fair, however the existing users aren't anywhere near as
> > numerous as the new ones.
>
> Depends on how you count the numbers. I see at least three machines
> supported in the kernel with the old binding and none with the new one
> so far ;-)
I'm curious as to how any of those actually work, given the
apparent total lack of a mv64360-mdio device binding...
> > As you can see, instead of putting port1 at +0x1700 or so,
> > marvell have overlapped the register files - in fact, doubly
> > so, since port1 + 0x1080 is right in the middle of
> > (port0 + 0x1000) -> (port0 + 0x16ff), so one cant simply map two
> > sets of regs like 0x0000->0x03ff and 0x1000->0x16ff for port one
> > either.
>
> This could theoretically be dealt with by having 5 register ranges
I make that three...
> per device, but that would cause extra overhead and also be
> incompatible with the existing binding.
Indeed.
> I think showing one
> parent device with children at address 0, 1 and 2 is ok.
Is it acceptable for the child devices to directly access the
parents register space? because there would be no other
way for that to work.
> The driver
> already knows all those offsets and they are always the same
> for all variants of mv643xx, right?
Yes, but its not clean. And no amount of refactoring is
really going to make a nice driver that also fits the ancient
(and badly thought out) OF bindings.
If we have to break things, we can at least go for a nice
clean design, surely?
The ports arent really child devices of the MAC. The MAC
just has 3 ports.
Luckily, it looks like the existing users don't actually use
the device tree to set up the driver at all, preferring to
translate their D-T bindings to calls to
platform_device_register() so all we'd need to do to
support them is completely ignore them.
We're going to have to maintain a legacy
platform_device -> DT bindings hack somewhere anyway,
at least until the remaining other users of the driver
convert to D-T.
-Ian
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ian Molton <ian.molton@codethink.co.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk, dale@farnsworth.org,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support.
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:21:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5023D577.8090001@codethink.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201208091143.32972.arnd@arndb.de>
On 09/08/12 12:43, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On 08/08/12 14:19, Ian Molton wrote:
> > On 08/08/12 13:39, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 08 August 2012, Ian Molton wrote:
> >>> This method would require a small amount of rework in the driver to
> >>> set up <n> ports, rather than just one.
> >> This looks quite nice, but it is still very much incompatible with the
> >> existing binding. Obviously we can abandon an existing binding and
> >> introduce a second one for the same hardware, but that should not
> >> be taken lightly.
> > Fair, however the existing users aren't anywhere near as
> > numerous as the new ones.
>
> Depends on how you count the numbers. I see at least three machines
> supported in the kernel with the old binding and none with the new one
> so far ;-)
I'm curious as to how any of those actually work, given the
apparent total lack of a mv64360-mdio device binding...
> > As you can see, instead of putting port1 at +0x1700 or so,
> > marvell have overlapped the register files - in fact, doubly
> > so, since port1 + 0x1080 is right in the middle of
> > (port0 + 0x1000) -> (port0 + 0x16ff), so one cant simply map two
> > sets of regs like 0x0000->0x03ff and 0x1000->0x16ff for port one
> > either.
>
> This could theoretically be dealt with by having 5 register ranges
I make that three...
> per device, but that would cause extra overhead and also be
> incompatible with the existing binding.
Indeed.
> I think showing one
> parent device with children at address 0, 1 and 2 is ok.
Is it acceptable for the child devices to directly access the
parents register space? because there would be no other
way for that to work.
> The driver
> already knows all those offsets and they are always the same
> for all variants of mv643xx, right?
Yes, but its not clean. And no amount of refactoring is
really going to make a nice driver that also fits the ancient
(and badly thought out) OF bindings.
If we have to break things, we can at least go for a nice
clean design, surely?
The ports arent really child devices of the MAC. The MAC
just has 3 ports.
Luckily, it looks like the existing users don't actually use
the device tree to set up the driver at all, preferring to
translate their D-T bindings to calls to
platform_device_register() so all we'd need to do to
support them is completely ignore them.
We're going to have to maintain a legacy
platform_device -> DT bindings hack somewhere anyway,
at least until the remaining other users of the driver
convert to D-T.
-Ian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-09 15:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-07 14:34 [PATCH v3 0/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] Initial csb1724 board support (FDT) Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] mv643xx.c: Remove magic numbers Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-07 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-07 15:56 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 15:56 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 20:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-07 20:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-07 20:25 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] kirkwood: Add fixups for DT based mv643xx ethernet Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] csb1724: Enable device tree based mv643xx ethernet support Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] DT: Convert all kirkwood boards with mv643xx that use DT Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] NET: mv643xx: remove device name macro Ian Molton
2012-08-07 14:34 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-07 23:29 ` [PATCH v3 0/7] mv643xx.c: Add basic device tree support David Miller
2012-08-07 23:29 ` David Miller
2012-08-08 0:31 ` Matt Sealey
2012-08-08 0:31 ` Matt Sealey
2012-08-08 8:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-08 8:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-08 8:59 ` David Miller
2012-08-08 8:59 ` David Miller
2012-08-08 9:40 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 9:40 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 9:42 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 9:42 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 11:51 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 11:51 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 12:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-08 12:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-08 13:19 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-08 13:19 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-09 10:59 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-09 10:59 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-09 10:59 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-09 11:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-09 11:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-09 11:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-09 15:21 ` Ian Molton [this message]
2012-08-09 15:21 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-09 15:21 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-10 10:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-10 10:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-10 10:49 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-13 10:00 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-13 10:00 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-13 10:00 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-16 16:30 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-16 16:30 ` Ian Molton
2012-08-16 16:30 ` Ian Molton
2012-09-10 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-10 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-11 6:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-11 6:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-09-11 6:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-10-21 1:52 ` Jason Cooper
2012-10-21 1:52 ` Jason Cooper
2012-10-21 1:52 ` Jason Cooper
2012-08-17 12:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 12:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-08-17 12:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
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