* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements @ 2012-08-22 14:17 Jie Liu 2012-08-22 17:13 ` srinivas eeda 2012-08-23 3:44 ` Tao Ma 0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jie Liu @ 2012-08-22 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel Hi All, These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected reboot in some real world use cases. This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the disk IO load is too high, etc... I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO reading/writing can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, I'd like to ping you guys with some rough ideas to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable or not. Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to fix the bio read/write to make this IO request can not be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or even submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing such things in kernel. :( how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we can do allocation out of it? maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, does it make sense if creating a memory pool on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to those bios? Any comments are appreciated! Thanks, -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120822/c454d0b4/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-22 14:17 [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements Jie Liu @ 2012-08-22 17:13 ` srinivas eeda 2012-08-22 17:18 ` Sunil Mushran 2012-08-23 2:00 ` Jie Liu 2012-08-23 3:44 ` Tao Ma 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: srinivas eeda @ 2012-08-22 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On 8/22/2012 7:17 AM, Jie Liu wrote: > Hi All, > > These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected > reboot in some real world use cases. > This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the > disk IO load is too high, etc... > I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO reading/writing > can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or > something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. > > Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, I'd > like to ping you guys with some rough ideas > to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable > or not. > > Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to > fix the bio read/write to make this IO request can not > be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), > currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, > 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or > even submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, > maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. This was submitted before by Noboru Iwamatsu and acked by sunil and tao but some how didn't get merged https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/2011-December/008438.html > > Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() > indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of > acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing such > things in kernel. :( > how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we > can do allocation out of it? > maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, does > it make sense if creating a memory pool > on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to > those bios? > > > Any comments are appreciated! > > Thanks, > -Jeff > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ocfs2-devel mailing list > Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com > https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120822/7967b991/attachment-0001.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-22 17:13 ` srinivas eeda @ 2012-08-22 17:18 ` Sunil Mushran 2012-08-23 2:08 ` Jie Liu 2012-08-23 2:00 ` Jie Liu 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-22 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel Yes. WRITE_SYNC should be good. Not FUA. Also, you may want to look into using io priorities. The code is all there. Just needs activation. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM, srinivas eeda <srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>wrote: > > On 8/22/2012 7:17 AM, Jie Liu wrote: > > Hi All, > > These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected reboot > in some real world use cases. > This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the disk IO > load is too high, etc... > I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO reading/writing can > not be scheduled and processed quickly, or > something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. > > Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, I'd > like to ping you guys with some rough ideas > to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable or > not. > > Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to fix > the bio read/write to make this IO request can not > be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), > currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, > 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or even > submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, > maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. > > This was submitted before by Noboru Iwamatsu and acked by sunil and tao > but some how didn't get merged > > https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/2011-December/008438.html > > > Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() > indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of > acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing such > things in kernel. :( > how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we can > do allocation out of it? > maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, does it > make sense if creating a memory pool > on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to those > bios? > > > Any comments are appreciated! > > Thanks, > -Jeff > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Ocfs2-devel mailing listOcfs2-devel at oss.oracle.comhttps://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Ocfs2-devel mailing list > Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com > https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120822/1b3588dd/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-22 17:18 ` Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-23 2:08 ` Jie Liu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jie Liu @ 2012-08-23 2:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On 08/23/12 01:18, Sunil Mushran wrote: > Yes. WRITE_SYNC should be good. Not FUA. > > Also, you may want to look into using io priorities. The code is all > there. Just needs activation. Yes, I'll search the list to find them out. Thanks, -Jeff > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM, srinivas eeda > <srinivas.eeda at oracle.com <mailto:srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>> wrote: > > > On 8/22/2012 7:17 AM, Jie Liu wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 >> unexpected reboot in some real world use cases. >> This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when >> the disk IO load is too high, etc... >> I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO >> reading/writing can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or >> something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. >> >> Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the >> meantime, I'd like to ping you guys with some rough ideas >> to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds >> reasonable or not. >> >> Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about >> to fix the bio read/write to make this IO request can not >> be preempted by other requests? e.g, for >> o2hb_issue_node_write(), currently, it do bio submission with >> WRITE only, >> 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, >> or even submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, >> maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. > This was submitted before by Noboru Iwamatsu and acked by sunil > and tao but some how didn't get merged > > https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/2011-December/008438.html >> >> Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() >> indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of >> acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing >> such things in kernel. :( >> how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so >> that we can do allocation out of it? >> maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, >> does it make sense if creating a memory pool >> on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to >> those bios? >> >> >> Any comments are appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> -Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ocfs2-devel mailing list >> Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com <mailto:Ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com> >> https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel > > _______________________________________________ > Ocfs2-devel mailing list > Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com <mailto:Ocfs2-devel@oss.oracle.com> > https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120823/407d3586/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-22 17:13 ` srinivas eeda 2012-08-22 17:18 ` Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-23 2:00 ` Jie Liu 1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jie Liu @ 2012-08-23 2:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On 08/23/12 01:13, srinivas eeda wrote: > > On 8/22/2012 7:17 AM, Jie Liu wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected >> reboot in some real world use cases. >> This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the >> disk IO load is too high, etc... >> I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO >> reading/writing can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or >> something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. >> >> Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, >> I'd like to ping you guys with some rough ideas >> to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable >> or not. >> >> Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to >> fix the bio read/write to make this IO request can not >> be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), >> currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, >> 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or >> even submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, >> maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. > This was submitted before by Noboru Iwamatsu and acked by sunil and > tao but some how didn't get merged > > https://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/2011-December/008438.html Thanks for the info! -Jeff >> >> Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() >> indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of >> acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing >> such things in kernel. :( >> how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we >> can do allocation out of it? >> maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, >> does it make sense if creating a memory pool >> on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to >> those bios? >> >> >> Any comments are appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> -Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ocfs2-devel mailing list >> Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com >> https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Ocfs2-devel mailing list > Ocfs2-devel at oss.oracle.com > https://oss.oracle.com/mailman/listinfo/ocfs2-devel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120823/86e5aeeb/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-22 14:17 [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements Jie Liu 2012-08-22 17:13 ` srinivas eeda @ 2012-08-23 3:44 ` Tao Ma 2012-08-23 4:01 ` Jie Liu 2012-08-23 17:33 ` Sunil Mushran 1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Tao Ma @ 2012-08-23 3:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel Hi Jeff, On 08/22/2012 10:17 PM, Jie Liu wrote: > Hi All, > > These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected > reboot in some real world use cases. > This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the disk > IO load is too high, etc... > I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO reading/writing > can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or > something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. > > Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, I'd > like to ping you guys with some rough ideas > to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable or > not. > > Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to fix > the bio read/write to make this IO request can not > be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), > currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, > 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or even > submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, > maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. yes, WRITE is too much easy to be preempted in cfq since it is in the async queue, so if we have a lot of read or sync write, the heartbeat write will be delayed a lot. So as Srini has said in another e-mail, WRITE_SYNC should help in case it will let you have the chance of be a sync write and be treated the same as the read. Please check it first to see whether it is OK. I guess the final solution will be WRITE_FUA, and I see btrfs uses it to write out the superblock. It will be handled differently by the underlying block layer so that it will not be in the elevator queue. It should work but I am not sure whether we need to be so aggressive. Maybe some test will show. Thanks Tao > > Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() > indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of > acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing such > things in kernel. :( > how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we > can do allocation out of it? > maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, does > it make sense if creating a memory pool > on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to those > bios? > > > Any comments are appreciated! > > Thanks, > -Jeff > > > > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-23 3:44 ` Tao Ma @ 2012-08-23 4:01 ` Jie Liu 2012-08-23 17:25 ` Sunil Mushran 2012-08-23 17:33 ` Sunil Mushran 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Jie Liu @ 2012-08-23 4:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel Hi Tao, On 08/23/12 11:44, Tao Ma wrote: > Hi Jeff, > On 08/22/2012 10:17 PM, Jie Liu wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> These days, I am investigating an issue regarding OCFS2 unexpected >> reboot in some real world use cases. >> This problem occurred when the network status goes south, when the disk >> IO load is too high, etc... >> I suspect it might caused by ocfs2 fencing if it's BIO reading/writing >> can not be scheduled and processed quickly, or >> something like this happened in the network IO heartbeat thread. >> >> Now am trying to reproduce this problem locally. In the meantime, I'd >> like to ping you guys with some rough ideas >> to improve the disk IO heartbeat to see if they are sounds reasonable or >> not. >> >> Firstly, if an OCFS2 node is suffer from heavy disk IO, how about to fix >> the bio read/write to make this IO request can not >> be preempted by other requests? e.g, for o2hb_issue_node_write(), >> currently, it do bio submission with WRITE only, >> 'submit_bio(WRITE, bio)'. If we change the flag to WRITE_SYNC, or even >> submit the request combine with REQ_FUA, >> maybe could get highest priority for disk IO request. > yes, WRITE is too much easy to be preempted in cfq since it is in the > async queue, so if we have a lot of read or sync write, the heartbeat > write will be delayed a lot. > > So as Srini has said in another e-mail, WRITE_SYNC should help in case > it will let you have the chance of be a sync write and be treated the > same as the read. Please check it first to see whether it is OK. We have started a test with this flag. > > I guess the final solution will be WRITE_FUA, and I see btrfs uses it to > write out the superblock. It will be handled differently by the > underlying block layer so that it will not be in the elevator queue. It > should work but I am not sure whether we need to be so aggressive. Maybe > some test will show. Yes, this solution is really aggressive, the purpose is to make sure that the bio write will hit the disk ASAP. I'll update the test results for you guys then. BTW, Sunil mentioned there already has an IO priority patch set but not yet merged. However, I only searched an old posts back to 2006 at: http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/11947/7120/ Am I missing something? Thanks, -Jeff > > Thanks > Tao > >> Secondly, the comments for bio allocation at o2hb_setup_one_bio() >> indicates that we can pre-allocate bio instead of >> acquire for each time. But I have not saw any code snippet doing such >> things in kernel. :( >> how about creating a private bio set for each o2hb_region, so that we >> can do allocation out of it? >> maybe it's faster than do allocation from global bio sets. Also, does >> it make sense if creating a memory pool >> on each o2hb_region, so that we can have continuous pages bind to those >> bios? >> >> >> Any comments are appreciated! >> >> Thanks, >> -Jeff >> >> >> >> >> >> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-23 4:01 ` Jie Liu @ 2012-08-23 17:25 ` Sunil Mushran 2012-08-24 4:33 ` Jie Liu 0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-23 17:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Jie Liu <jeff.liu@oracle.com> wrote: > BTW, Sunil mentioned there already has an IO priority patch set but not > yet merged. However, I only searched > an old posts back to 2006 at: > http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/11947/7120/ > > Am I missing something? > No, I said the code is all in there. You just need to use it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120823/5a158b2c/attachment-0001.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-23 17:25 ` Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-24 4:33 ` Jie Liu 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Jie Liu @ 2012-08-24 4:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On 08/24/12 01:25, Sunil Mushran wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Jie Liu <jeff.liu@oracle.com > <mailto:jeff.liu@oracle.com>> wrote: > > BTW, Sunil mentioned there already has an IO priority patch set > but not > yet merged. However, I only searched > an old posts back to 2006 at: > http://www.digipedia.pl/usenet/thread/11947/7120/ > > Am I missing something? > > > No, I said the code is all in there. You just need to use it. Ah, I know what I need to do. Thanks, -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120824/e2c2f110/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-23 3:44 ` Tao Ma 2012-08-23 4:01 ` Jie Liu @ 2012-08-23 17:33 ` Sunil Mushran 2012-08-24 1:42 ` Tao Ma 1 sibling, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread From: Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-23 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Tao Ma <tm@tao.ma> wrote: > I guess the final solution will be WRITE_FUA, and I see btrfs uses it to > write out the superblock. It will be handled differently by the > underlying block layer so that it will not be in the elevator queue. It > should work but I am not sure whether we need to be so aggressive. Maybe > some test will show. > > FUA is an overkill for the heartbeat data because we don't care if that data hits the platter or not. It can stay in the device's volatile cache. Infact, staying in the cache, and not hitting the platter, is better. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-devel/attachments/20120823/46739e77/attachment.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
* [Ocfs2-devel] RFC: OCFS2 heartbeat improvements 2012-08-23 17:33 ` Sunil Mushran @ 2012-08-24 1:42 ` Tao Ma 0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread From: Tao Ma @ 2012-08-24 1:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ocfs2-devel On 08/24/2012 01:33 AM, Sunil Mushran wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:44 PM, Tao Ma <tm at tao.ma <mailto:tm@tao.ma>> > wrote: > > I guess the final solution will be WRITE_FUA, and I see btrfs uses it to > write out the superblock. It will be handled differently by the > underlying block layer so that it will not be in the elevator queue. It > should work but I am not sure whether we need to be so aggressive. Maybe > some test will show. > > > FUA is an overkill for the heartbeat data because we don't care if that data > hits the platter or not. It can stay in the device's volatile cache. > Infact, staying > in the cache, and not hitting the platter, is better. yes, but it has the benefit that the elevator will not try to add it in the queue and avoid any possible latency from the elevator. And my another concern is that if ocfs2 has some high-end shared storage, it should optimize the FUA command to be very fast and even within its cache if the storage can survive the power outage. Having said that, it may hurt if the backend storage doesn't implement FUA fast enough. So maybe we can add a new parameter so that the user can decide what type of heartbeat write he/she needs. Thanks Tao ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 11+ messages in thread
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